Re: [PATCHES] Static snapshot data

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)dcc(dot)uchile(dot)cl>
Cc: Manfred Koizar <mkoi-pg(at)aon(dot)at>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: [PATCHES] Static snapshot data
Date: 2003-05-13 04:51:36
Message-ID: 5958.1052801496@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)dcc(dot)uchile(dot)cl> writes:
> I don't think it makes sense to change the isolation level for a
> non-toplevel transaction. That is, if the topmost transaction is
> ISOLATION LEVEL SERIALIZABLE, all its child transactions will be. And
> if it's not, then there's no way to make its child transactions be so.
> Is there an objection to this idea?

I have a feeling that there might be some value in running a
SERIALIZABLE subtransaction inside a READ COMMITTED parent. Too tired
to come up with an example right now, though. I agree that the other
way 'round (READ COMMITTED inside SERIALIZABLE) would be a bad idea,
since it negates the fundamental premise of SERIALIZABLE.

> With "constant isolation" in mind, it's clear that the
> SerializableSnapshot is going to be constant for all transactions.

But ... your definition of the snapshot includes the list of successful
previous subtransactions of the parent. How's that static?

> And about QuerySnapshots: given some running transaction with a given
> QuerySnapshot, a newly created child transaction's first QuerySnapshot
> can be calculated easily as:
> - Xmin, Xmax and xip are the same as in the current implementation
> (i.e. the values from GetSnapshotData)

Not entirely sure about that in READ COMMITTED mode. Should a child
xact be able to see commits from other backends that happened before it
started, but after its parent started? I can think of arguments on both
sides ...

regards, tom lane

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