Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer

From: Darren Duncan <darren(at)darrenduncan(dot)net>
To: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>, Neel Patel <neel(dot)patel(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Cc: Khushboo Vashi <khushboo(dot)vashi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, pgAdmin Support <pgadmin-support(at)postgresql(dot)org>, pgadmin-hackers <pgadmin-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Akshay Joshi <akshay(dot)joshi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer
Date: 2020-04-14 17:51:17
Message-ID: 586bcde8-6d29-a7fc-e25f-6afde302d504@darrenduncan.net
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You have a typo `elif browser != 'chrom'` but otherwise I see no problems with
the patch, thank you. -- Darren Duncan

On 2020-04-14 7:46 a.m., Dave Page wrote:
> Ooops. Thanks for catching that. Here it is.
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 3:45 PM Neel Patel <neel(dot)patel(at)enterprisedb(dot)com
> <mailto:neel(dot)patel(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> Looks like patch is missing in attachment.
>
> Thanks,
> Neel Patel
>
>
> On Tue 14 Apr, 2020, 6:53 PM Dave Page, <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org
> <mailto:dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>> wrote:
>
> Here's an updated patch that gives a slightly different message if the
> browser is unknown vs. unsupported/deprecated. As with the previous
> patch, the check can be disabled in the config.
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 5:07 AM Khushboo Vashi
> <khushboo(dot)vashi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com
> <mailto:khushboo(dot)vashi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:57 PM Darren Duncan
> <darren(at)darrenduncan(dot)net <mailto:darren(at)darrenduncan(dot)net>> wrote:
>
> The patch looks good as much as I understand it, but this raises
> an important
> question:
>
> How should one best handle minority browsers that may be
> completely modern but
> you may not specifically know about them?  Such as the newer
> crop of browsers
> that emphasize stronger privacy or may have fewer identifiers?
>
> While going on a whitelist as the patch essentially does for
> known good browsers
> is conservative, I feel that an alteration would be good.
>
> I propose dividing the browsers/environments into 3 categories,
> which are
> recognized-supported, recognized-unsupported, and unrecognized.
>
>
> So the unsupported older versions of supported browsers get a
> stronger message
> encouraging a browser switch as they are recognized as
> unsupported, while
> unrecognized browsers get a different weaker message saying they
> weren't
> recognized so we can't determine if they'd work; both can point
> to the list of
> known supported browsers.
>
> I do agree with this suggestion.
>
> Related to this, there could be an application toggle that
> affects the
> unrecognized category where users can basically say, yes I
> understand you don't
> recognize this browser, please hide the warning, or something
> like that.
>
> Also, it probably goes without saying, but the code/templates
> will need to be
> structured in such a way that the warning message uses about
> plain as possible
> HTML so that if the browser doesn't support displaying the UI in
> general it can
> at least display the message.
>
> -- Darren Duncan
>
> On 2020-04-09 4:36 a.m., Dave Page wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:26 AM Darren Duncan wrote:
> >
> >     If its hard to know how many people are actually using
> Internet Explorer:
> >
> >     You could make the next release of pgAdmin display a
> message occasionally to
> >     users of Internet Explorer saying that Internet Explorer
> will no longer be
> >     officially supported in a future version, and when that
> version comes the
> >     message says now no longer supported.
> >
> >     You can then see how many people contact you about this
> to express concern.
> >
> >
> > Good idea. I've hacked up a patch to warn users if they're
> using a deprecated or
> > unsupported browser.
> >
> > CCing Akshay for a review :-)
> >
> > --
> > Dave Page
> > Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
> > Twitter: @pgsnake
> >
> > EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
> > The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Dave Page
> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
> Twitter: @pgsnake
>
> EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>
>
>
> --
> Dave Page
> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
> Twitter: @pgsnake
>
> EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

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