From: | Ron <ronljohnsonjr(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Israel Brewster <ijbrewster(at)alaska(dot)edu> |
Cc: | pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: The Amazon CloudFront distribution is configured to block access from your country. |
Date: | 2021-04-11 15:16:11 |
Message-ID: | 586a655c-daf0-1b26-8e48-2029438a0c2e@gmail.com |
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On 4/11/21 10:07 AM, Israel Brewster wrote:
>> On Apr 11, 2021, at 6:52 AM, Ron <ronljohnsonjr(at)gmail(dot)com
>> <mailto:ronljohnsonjr(at)gmail(dot)com>> wrote:
>>
>> On 4/11/21 9:12 AM, Israel Brewster wrote:
>>>> On Apr 11, 2021, at 1:53 AM, Stephan Knauss <pgsql(at)stephans-server(dot)de
>>>> <mailto:pgsql(at)stephans-server(dot)de>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Felix,
>>>>
>>>> On 11.04.2021 02:31, felix(dot)quintgz(at)yahoo(dot)com
>>>> <mailto:felix(dot)quintgz(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>> I see no reason why ask elsewhere first, the link for the installer
>>>>> download is on the Postgresql website, not elsewhere. The most logical
>>>>> thing to do is ask here first.
>>>>
>>>>> Because it is the Postgresql installer.
>>>>> https://www.enterprisedb.com/downloads/postgres-postgresql-downloads
>>>>>
>>>> It's unfortunate that your download is blocked. As indicated by others
>>>> I am also wondering why you ask here for community support.
>>>>
>>>> You pointed to a download link which is controlled by a private company
>>>> selling Postgresql services:
>>>>
>>>> Read about this company on an independent website:
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EnterpriseDB
>>>>
>>>> If you are looking for the download links of the PostgreSQL project,
>>>> you can find it here:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.postgresql.org/download/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Based on your feedback, it is NOT the link listed on the PostgreSQL
>>>> website,
>>>
>>> With all due respect, the link he posted IS the link listed on the
>>> PostgreSQL website, at least for me. When I go to the link YOU posted,
>>> and click on MacOS, for example (giving me a URL of
>>> https://www.postgresql.org/download/macosx/) the FIRST option listed
>>> there is "Interactive installer by EDB”, which links to
>>> https://www.enterprisedb.com/downloads/postgres-postgresql-downloads.
>>> There is no indication on that page that you are linking to a
>>> third-party package download not supported by PostgreSQL (it does say
>>> “certified by EDB”, but that doesn’t mean much to a new user, and
>>> certainly doesn’t indicate a lack of support by PostgreSQL), so it makes
>>> total sense that someone would think to ask here first when experiencing
>>> issues.
>>>
>>> If you don’t want to offer assistance, that’s fine, but this link most
>>> certainly IS the link listed on the PostgreSQL website, at least for
>>> MacOS. I haven’t checked for other operating systems.
>>>
>>
>> Your comment means that the owners of any web page which links to a third
>> party product must support that third-party product, just by virtue of
>> supporting it. That's crazy.
>
> My comment means no such thing. You are absolutely right: that would be
> crazy. What my comment means is exactly what it says:
>
> 1) The official PostgreSQL download page (for both mac and windows
> platforms) makes NO MENTION of the FACT that it is linking to an
> unsupported third-party installer, and
> 2) as such, it makes total sense that someone going to the official
> PostgreSQL download page and getting an error when clicking on a link on
> the official PostgreSQL download page would come here first for support.
>
> That is ALL I said, and that is ALL I meant. DO NOT put words in my mouth!
If my software requires zlib, and I link to https://zlib.net/ on my page,
then your logic absolutely means that I'm responsible for supporting zlib.
--
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