Re: Updates for PostgreSQL.org one-click installer download pages

From: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>, Andy Astor <andya(at)bigsql(dot)com>
Cc: "Jonathan S(dot) Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Marc Linster <marc(dot)linster(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc>, David Rader <davidr(at)openscg(dot)com>, Scott Mead <scottm(at)openscg(dot)com>, "pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Updates for PostgreSQL.org one-click installer download pages
Date: 2016-07-14 16:25:08
Message-ID: 5787BCE4.5090204@commandprompt.com
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On 07/14/2016 09:14 AM, Dave Page wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Andy Astor <andya(at)bigsql(dot)com> wrote:
>>
>> I believe it is appropriate to allow some leeway to differentiate offerings
>> on these pages, provided they are brief, fact-based, and understated. Such

Fair enough.

>> differentiations provide the community with useful information. If all the
>> offerings are instead presented identically, then a new user would have to
>> click-through to each company site to understand the differences, which

Except:

1. .Org should not be in the business of marketing products
2. these products are essentially the same (not kind of, not sort of,
just two different companies vying for click-through traffic)

>> carries at least two problems. First, it adds friction and inconvenience to
>> the user experience. Second, there would be no balanced presentation of the
>> options; only marketing.

Incorrect at least currently, unless you can demonstrably show that
there are distinct differences in the offerings between EDB and
OpenSCG/BigSQL.

*If* there is a value added user experience that is significant and
demonstrable between these two packages, AWESOME! What is it? Then they
can be distinct on the pages.

> With a peer-reviewed patch system such as the one
>> we have, we drive companies toward fact-based statements, which I think is
>> very valuable to the community.
>

Agreed.

That said, I am done fighting about this. I have more fun things to do
and CMD doesn't have a stake in this game. Let those who have to apply
the patches worry about it.

Sincerely,

JD

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