Re: 9.5 Release press coverage

From: Adrian Klaver <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
Cc: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>, Umair Shahid <umair(dot)shahid(at)gmail(dot)com>, David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org>, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: 9.5 Release press coverage
Date: 2016-01-13 18:27:58
Message-ID: 5696972E.3050100@aklaver.com
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On 01/13/2016 10:08 AM, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Joshua D. Drake <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>> If EnterpriseDB is making false statements, then it is
>>>>> entirely right for people to be upset about that, but our press
>>>>> release does not do that. I have read that press release several
>>

>
> To be honest, I'm not sure the disparity in name recognition is
> anywhere near as large as you seem to be portraying here. I think
> most people who care about PostgreSQL to any degree know that there
> are many PostgreSQL companies and who some of the leading ones are.
> It is possible that a press release from EnterpriseDB might cause
> somebody who doesn't yet know anything about PostgreSQL to learn about
> EnterpriseDB before they learn about other companies, but if that
> press release is written in an inappropriately self-aggrandizing
> fashion, once they do start to learn how it works, that's actually
> going to work against EDB, not for it. Tomas said more or less the
> same thing upthread and I think he's right: grandstanding is not a
> benefit to EnterpriseDB, or really anyone, anywhere, ever. So I
> *don't* think that our press release is inappropriately claiming
> credit for anybody else's work, but if it is, then I think that's
> first of all wrong but also secondly bad marketing that will come back
> to bite us.
>

As the person who opened this can of worms by making mention of the
article in question, I have the following to say. Enough already! Almost
immediately after my post Dave Page posted saying a correction was on
the way, which indeed happened. The post to --announce was admitted to
as a joint error by all concerned. Mea Culpa's have been issued
copiously. I would say all concerned have gotten the message that
mistakes happen, next time we try better. Parsing intent especially at a
distance and via electronic media is an exercise in futility. Personally
I think the needs of the community are best served by moving on. Lets
just get people using Postgres.

--
Adrian Klaver
adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com

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