Re: Code of Conduct: Is it time?

From: Gavin Flower <GavinFlower(at)archidevsys(dot)co(dot)nz>
To: Regina Obe <lr(at)pcorp(dot)us>, pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Code of Conduct: Is it time?
Date: 2016-01-10 07:57:25
Message-ID: 56920EE5.6040502@archidevsys.co.nz
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On 10/01/16 20:37, Regina Obe wrote:
> Josh informed me you guys are thinking about a CoC. Let me start off by
> saying that I don't think you need one and in fact having one may be
> dangerous. I fear for your safety.
>
> I think Roxanne mentioned some good points in an earlier thread that you
> should itemize what you expect to achieve with a Coc.
>
> Quoted from her note:
> "You implied in your first post that you would attract more contributors
> with a CoC."
>
> Let me say -- I do not think you will attract more contributors. You may
> in fact attract parasites.
>
> The FreeBSD thread that is often mentioned as reason why you need a Coc is
> this from Randi Harper.
> http://blog.randi.io/2015/12/31/the-developer-formerly-known-as-freebsdgirl/
>
> Randi has just blocked me on twitter after I complimented her on her nice
> shallow evidence - http://imgur.com/a/UVKfZ Perhaps questioning her
> harassment claims identifies me as a troll.
>
> I have spoken to one of her victims Roberto Rosario. A great loving man
> from what I can tell, and she has truly tried to destroy his credibility
> and harassed him beyond end. I feel so horrible that a woman claiming to
> watch out for minorities and women in tech is disingenuous and will
> probably laugh pushing me down, because I'm not poor and have educated
> parents.
>
> So please whatever you do, if you really feel you need a Coc, do not
> choose this one or anything that looks like it:
>
> http://contributor-covenant.org/
>
> I'm seeing social bullies going at every project demanding they adopt this
> garbage.
>
> Who knows what their intention is, I can only imagine.
>
>
> Thanks Regina,
> PostGIS PSC member
>
>
I was at the 2015 Australian Linux Conference (held in Auckland, NZ),
when Sarah Sharp harangued Linus Torvalds for over 20 minutes. Linus
remained calm and polite throughout, yet most people would have been
obviously annoyed within the first 5 minutes. As backround see:
http://www.networkworld.com/article/2988850/opensource-subnet/linux-kernel-dev-sarah-sharp-quits-citing-brutal-communications-style.html

I think some people, unintentionally, set themselves up as a victim.

So I would agree that a Coc is likely only to lead to arguments. Take
something innocuous like 'do not offend people' - sounds good, now
politely explain why someone's deeply held beliefs contradict reality!

Cheers,
Gavin

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