Re: Code of Conduct: Is it time?

On 1/5/2016 5:31 PM, Jim Nasby wrote:
>
> IMHO, the real problem here is not simply a CoC, it is that the
> Postgres community doesn't focus on developing the community itself.
> The closest we come to "focus" is occasional talk on -hackers about
> how we need more developers. There is no formal
> discussion/leadership/coordination towards actively building and
> strengthening our community. Until that changes, I fear we will always
> have a lack of developers. More importantly, we will continue to lack
> all the other ways that people could contribute beyond writing code.
> IE: the talk shouldn't be about needing more developers, it should be
> about needing people who want to contribute time to growing the
> community.

That sounds like a bunch of modern marketing graduate mumbojumbo to
me. The postgres community are the people who actually support it on
the email lists and IRC, as well as the core development teams, and
INMO, they are quite strong and effective. when you start talking
about social marketing and facebook and twitter and stuff, thats just a
bunch of feelgood smoke and mirrors. The project's output is what
supports it, not having people going out 'growing community', that is
just a bunch of hot air. you actively 'grow community' when you're
pushing worthless products (soda pop, etc) based on slick marketing
plans rather than actually selling something useful.

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john r pierce, recycling bits in santa cruz