From: | Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net> |
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To: | "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)BlueTreble(dot)com>, obartunov(at)gmail(dot)com |
Cc: | Steve Crawford <scrawford(at)pinpointresearch(dot)com>, David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, YUriy Zhuravlev <u(dot)zhuravlev(at)postgrespro(dot)ru>, Pgsql Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: No Issue Tracker - Say it Ain't So! |
Date: | 2015-09-30 18:33:37 |
Message-ID: | 560C2B01.2080704@dunslane.net |
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On 09/30/2015 02:16 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> On 09/30/2015 10:45 AM, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
>
>> Frankly, an insistence on moving to some integrated solution is likely
>> to result in the adoption of nothing. And your "educating hackers who
>> don't understand" is more than a little patronizing. What makes you
>> think your experience in software development is better than others'?
>
> I wasn't being patronizing. I was stating a point. Is this discussion
> not educational (whether you agree with the points or not) or are you
> suggesting that somehow you already know everything?
>
> That, was patronizing.
Nonsense. There is a big difference between "stating a view" and
"educating people who don't understand." The latter implies that your
experience is to be preferred to theirs.
>
> I believe myself (and someone like Nasby) do have a better core
> understanding of development because development is more than some guy
> sitting in a den pushing out code. The community already recognizes
> this, that is why we have the facilities we do now. All I (and others)
> am suggesting is that we make the facilities we have now, work better.
Who exactly is "some guy sitting in a den pushing out code"? And if
that's not a patronizing put down I don't know what is. If you're
referring to me you couldn't be more wrong. I have been a development
director managing a couple of substantial teams, as well as having
worked in numerous commercial environments.
cheers
andrew
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