From: | Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net> |
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To: | "ktm(at)rice(dot)edu" <ktm(at)rice(dot)edu>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> |
Cc: | Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)BlueTreble(dot)com>, Thomas Kellerer <spam_eater(at)gmx(dot)net>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: No Issue Tracker - Say it Ain't So! |
Date: | 2015-09-24 14:56:42 |
Message-ID: | 56040F2A.7030304@dunslane.net |
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On 09/24/2015 10:28 AM, ktm(at)rice(dot)edu wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 04:33:33PM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
>> On 09/23/2015 03:05 PM, Jim Nasby wrote:
>>> On 9/23/15 3:12 PM, Thomas Kellerer wrote:
>>>> They also support Postgres as their backend (and you do find hints
>>>> here and
>>>> there
>>>> that it is the recommended open source DBMS for them - but they don't
>>>> explicitly state it like that). We are using Jira at the company I
>>>> work for
>>>> and
>>>> all Jira installations run on Postgres there.
>>> I'll second Jira as well. It's the only issue tracker I've seen that you
>>> can actually use for multiple different things without it becoming a
>>> mess. IE: it could track Postgres bugs, infrastructure issues, and the
>>> TODO list if we wanted, allow issues to reference each other
>>> intelligently, yet still keep them as 3 separate bodies.
>> Speaking as someone who uses Jira for commericial work, I'm -1 on them.
>> I simply don't find Jira to be superior to OSS BT systems, and inferior
>> in several ways (like that you can't have more than one person assigned
>> to a bug). And email integration for Jira is nonexistant.
>>
>> When we discussed this 8 years ago, Debian said debbugs wasn't ready for
>> anyone else to use. Has that changed?
>>
> I do not think using a commercial system is a good idea. Currently, Jira
> is free for open-source, but there is no guarantee. That could change at
> anytime and result in possibly an expensive license cost or port to another
> system. We use Jira/Confluence and the random loss of support for various
> plugins caused by forced security-based upgrades has resulted in a lot of
> unexpected work to maintain the system.
>
+1
Regardless of the quality of any non-OSS tracker, about which I have no
comment, I firmly believe that as an OSS project we should use OSS
infrastructure.
About 10 years ago I helped get Bugzilla over the hurdle of database
mono-culturism (basically by coming up with the initial version of this:
<https://github.com/bugzilla/bugzilla/commit/b8793ea28e3e03b2452bac119f2adcd3758e7260>).
Part of my motivation was to have a tracker to support the PostgreSQL
project that would run on PostgreSQL. We can see how well that worked
out :-)
cheers
andrew
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