From: | Tomas Vondra <tomas(at)vondra(dot)me> |
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To: | Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Andrey M(dot) Borodin" <x4mmm(at)yandex-team(dot)ru>, Daniel Gustafsson <daniel(at)yesql(dot)se>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Bharath Rupireddy <bharath(dot)rupireddyforpostgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, Ilya Kosmodemiansky <hydrobiont(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tomas Vondra <tv(at)fuzzy(dot)cz> |
Subject: | Re: Add LSN <-> time conversion functionality |
Date: | 2024-08-09 17:24:46 |
Message-ID: | 55b0eb63-a5c3-4986-9fbb-9fe210cdd2e3@vondra.me |
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On 8/9/24 15:09, Melanie Plageman wrote:
>
> ...
>
> Okay, so as I think about evaluating a few new algorithms, I realize
> that we do need some sort of criteria. I started listing out what I
> feel is "reasonable" accuracy and plotting it to see if the
> relationship is linear/exponential/etc. I think it would help to get
> input on what would be "reasonable" accuracy.
>
> I thought that the following might be acceptable:
> The first column is how old the value I am looking for actually is,
> the second column is how off I am willing to have the algorithm tell
> me it is (+/-):
>
> 1 second, 1 minute
> 1 minute, 10 minute
> 1 hour, 1 hour
> 1 day, 6 hours
> 1 week, 12 hours
> 1 month, 1 day
> 6 months, 1 week
>
I think the question is whether we want to make this useful for other
places and/or people, or if it's fine to tailor this specifically for
the freezing patch.
If the latter (specific to the freezing patch), I don't see why would it
matter what we think - either it works for the patch, or not.
But if we want to make it more widely useful, I find it a bit strange
the relative accuracy *increases* for older data. I mean, we start with
relative error 6000% (60s/1s) and then we get to relative error ~4%
(1w/24w). Isn't that a bit against the earlier discussion on needing
better accuracy for recent data? Sure, the absolute accuracy is still
better (1m <<< 1w). And if this is good enough for the freezing ...
> Column 1 over column 2 produces a line like in the attached pic. I'd
> be interested in others' opinions of error tolerance.
>
> - Melanie
I don't understand what the axes on the chart are :-( Does "A over B"
mean A is x-axis or y-axis?
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Tomas Vondra
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