Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table.

From: Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)BlueTreble(dot)com>
To: <hlinnaka(at)iki(dot)fi>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Sawada Masahiko <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Greg Stark <stark(at)mit(dot)edu>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Jeff Janes <jeff(dot)janes(at)gmail(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table.
Date: 2015-04-23 14:52:37
Message-ID: 55390735.1040508@BlueTreble.com
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On 4/23/15 2:42 AM, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> On 04/22/2015 09:24 PM, Robert Haas wrote:
>> Yeah. We have a serious need to reduce the size of our on-disk
>> format. On a TPC-C-like workload Jan Wieck recently tested, our data
>> set was 34% larger than another database at the beginning of the test,
>> and 80% larger by the end of the test. And we did twice the disk
>> writes. See "The Elephants in the Room.pdf" at
>> https://sites.google.com/site/robertmhaas/presentations
>
> Meh. Adding an 8-byte header to every 8k block would add 0.1% to the
> disk size. No doubt it would be nice to reduce our disk footprint, but
> the page header is not the elephant in the room.

I've often wondered if there was some way we could consolidate XMIN/XMAX
from multiple tuples at the page level; that could be a big win for OLAP
environments where most of your tuples belong to a pretty small range of
XIDs. In many workloads you could have 80%+ of the tuples in a table
having a single inserting XID.

Dunno how much it would help for OLTP though... :/
--
Jim Nasby, Data Architect, Blue Treble Consulting
Data in Trouble? Get it in Treble! http://BlueTreble.com

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