Re: Redesigning checkpoint_segments

On 09/01/2013 10:37 AM, Amit Kapila wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 2:38 AM, Heikki Linnakangas
> <hlinnakangas(at)vmware(dot)com> wrote:
>
> a.
> In XLogFileInit(),
> /*
> ! * XXX: What should we use as max_segno? We used to use XLOGfileslop when
> ! * that was a constant, but that was always a bit dubious: normally, at a
> ! * checkpoint, XLOGfileslop was the offset from the checkpoint record,
> ! * but here, it was the offset from the insert location. We can't do the
> ! * normal XLOGfileslop calculation here because we don't have access to
> ! * the prior checkpoint's redo location. So somewhat arbitrarily, just
> ! * use CheckPointSegments.
> ! */
> ! max_segno = logsegno + CheckPointSegments;
> if (!InstallXLogFileSegment(&installed_segno, tmppath,
> ! *use_existent, max_segno,
> use_lock))
>
> Earlier max_advance is same when InstallXLogFileSegment is called from
> RemoveOldXlogFiles() and XLogFileInit(),
> but now they will be different (and it seems there is no direct
> relation between these 2 numbers), so will it be okay for scenario
> when someone else has created the file while this function was
> filling, because it needs to restore as future segment which will be
> decided based on max_segno?

I haven't really thought hard about the above. As the comment says,
passing the same max_advance value here and in RemoveOldXlogFiles() was
a bit dubious too, because the reference point was different.

I believe it's quite rare that two processes create a new WAL segment
concurrently, so it isn't terribly important what we do here.

> b. Do createrestartpoint need to update the
> CheckPointDistanceEstimate, as when it will try to remove old xlog
> files, it needs recycleSegNo which is calculated using
> CheckPointDistanceEstimate?

Yeah, you're right, it should. I haven't tested this with archive
recovery or replication at all yet.

> As a developer, I would love to have configuration knob such as
> min_recycle_wal_size, but not sure how many users will be comfortable
> setting this value, actually few users I had talked about this earlier
> are interested in setting max WAL size which can allow them to set an
> upper limit on space required by WAL.
> Can't we think of doing the calculation of files to recycle only based
> on CheckPointDistanceEstimate.

You can always just leave min_recycle_wal_size to the default. It sets a
minimum for the number of preallocated segments, which can help if you
have spikes that consume a lot of WAL, like nightly batch jobs. But if
you don't have such spikes, or the overhead of creating new segments
when such a spike happens isn't too large, you don't need to set it.

One idea is to try to make the creation of new WAL segments faster. Then
it wouldn't hurt so much if you run out of preallocated/recycled
segments and need to suddenly create a lot of new ones. Then we might
not need a minimum setting at all.

- Heikki