Re: jsonb format is pessimal for toast compression

From: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas(at)vmware(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)heroku(dot)com>, Claudio Freire <klaussfreire(at)gmail(dot)com>, "David E(dot) Wheeler" <david(at)justatheory(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, Jan Wieck <jan(at)wi3ck(dot)info>
Subject: Re: jsonb format is pessimal for toast compression
Date: 2014-09-25 17:18:24
Message-ID: 54244E60.20803@agliodbs.com
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On 09/25/2014 10:14 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 06:01:08PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote:
>> But independent of which version is chosen, we *REALLY* need to make the
>> decision soon. This issue has held up the next beta (like jsonb has
>> blocked previous beta) for *weeks*.
>>
>> Personally it doesn't make me very happy that Heikki and Tom had to be
>> the people stepping up to fix this.
>
> I think there are a few reasons this has been delayed, aside from the
> scheduling ones:
>
> 1. compression issues were a surprise, and we are wondering if
> there are any other surprises
> 2. pg_upgrade makes future data format changes problematic
> 3. 9.3 multi-xact bugs spooked us into being more careful
>
> I am not sure what we can do to increase our speed based on these items.

Alternately, this is delayed because:

1. We have one tested patch to fix the issue.

2. However, people are convinced that there's a better patch possible.

3. But nobody is working on this better patch except "in their spare time".

Given this, I once again vote for releasing based on Tom's lengths-only
patch, which is done, tested, and ready to go.

--
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
http://pgexperts.com

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