Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core?

From: cowwoc <cowwoc(at)bbs(dot)darktech(dot)org>
To: pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core?
Date: 2014-09-18 04:42:28
Message-ID: 541A629B.8050909@bbs.darktech.org
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Tom,

For starters, let's talk strictly about improving the deployment
situation, which the core team *is* uniquely positioned to do.

The pl/java author(s) should figure out what needs to be done but once
that's known we need to do *something* in core so the deployment process
is reduced to 1-2 steps max (CREATE EXTENSION pljava, and add Java to
Postgresql's library path).

Gili

On 18/09/2014 12:31 AM, Tom Lane-2 [via PostgreSQL] wrote:
> John R Pierce <[hidden email]
> </user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5819443&i=0>> writes:
> > On 9/17/2014 5:02 PM, cowwoc wrote:
> >> This shouldn't be too technically difficult to pull off.
>
> > right.
>
> > wait, which user? the java user/developer who typically hasn't a
> > clue how system-level stuff functions or operates, or the postgresql
> > database administrator, who probably hasn't a clue how java works
> > internally ?
>
> There are a number of reasons why this (pl/java in core) isn't likely
> to happen; one being that I think a good fraction of the core PG
> developers fall into the "haven't a clue how java works internally"
> camp. But here's the *key* reason: if pl/java is failing to stay afloat
> as an external project, that is a terrible reason for pulling it into
> core. It suggests strongly that the manpower or interest to keep it
> going simply doesn't exist. Making it part of the core distribution
> would not fix that, and moreover it would demand attention from PG core
> developers who are not particularly motivated or capable to do anything
> with it.
>
> If you feel that pl/java isn't sufficiently well maintained, the
> short answer is that you should get involved with it as it is.
> In the end, open source is all about "scratch your own itch".
>
> regards, tom lane
>
>
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