Re: Arduino SQL Connector

On 04/18/14 00:09, Steve Spence wrote:
> You know what? Fine, it doesn't matter that much to me. I'm happy to
> continue using MySQL. It works with the Arduino quite nicely. Postgres
> doesn't work. That's Postgres loss not mine. I really thought the
> postgres team would be interested in providing support for a very
> popular microcontroller system. If not, they are missing out on a
> larger segment of users.
>
> The MySQL connector is copyrighted and GPL'd by Oracle, it would be
> nice if Postgres would do something similar for those that prefer
> using Postgres instead of forcing people touse MySQL. My mistake in
> thinking this might be the case. Or Maybe Jan doesn't speak for
> Postgres .....

Steve,

I certainly do *not* speak for Postgres or its community. I actually
resigned from the CORE team a few years ago, so I explicitly do *not*
speak in any such role!

I only happen to be someone who did contribute one or more features to
the PostgreSQL project in the past. None of those contributions happened
by simply asking for "wild enthusiasm" for whatever I needed at that
moment.

I understand that you want PostgreSQL support for your favorite embedded
platform, but that will not happen unless you can generate enthusiasm
for PostgreSQL in the Arduino community. I know how funny that sounds,
because that is like asking to generate PostgreSQL enthusiasm in the
"yet another Perl based CMS" community. Not going to happen any time
soon. They all love dumb and fast bit buckets because they don't
understand the term "set oriented".

Fine with me, and probably (note: not speaking for, just guesstimating)
most of the audience here.

Regards,
Jan

> Steve Spence, KK4HFJ
> Director, Green Trust
> http://www.green-trust.org
> Http://arduinotronics.blogspot.com
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Jan Wieck <jan(at)wi3ck(dot)info> wrote:
>> On 04/17/14 20:01, Steve Spence wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm trying to port my application from mysql to postgres (for the GIS
>>> supoort). I had hoped there would be wild enthsuiasm for such a
>>> project, as the Arduino community is extremely large, and this would
>>> push postgres into a wider audience. I expected it would take multiple
>>> people with varying backgrounds to accomplish the task. If you can do
>>> it on your own, great. I'll be happy to lend what knowledge I have of
>>> the Arduino and using the mysql connector -
>>
>>
>> This is a pattern I've seen for over a decade now. People think that
>> randomly sprinkling "MySQL" into a discussion will generate "wild
>> enthusiasm" for supporting "their attempt to port *their* appli ..." wait
>> ... oh ... didn't work again?
>>
>> Bummer!
>>
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>
>>> http://www.green-trust.org/lmanco/find.php
>>> Steve Spence, KK4HFJ
>>> Director, Green Trust
>>> http://www.green-trust.org
>>> Http://arduinotronics.blogspot.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Tomas Vondra <tv(at)fuzzy(dot)cz> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 17.4.2014 19:43, Steve Spence wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Oracle thought it was a good idea to put out a MySQL version, I
>>>>> figure there should be some effort to counter that here .....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Really? I found no information about this on oracle.com or mysql.com,
>>>> except for a section in the discussion forum with ~20 posts. It's true
>>>> that the author is apparently a Senior Software Engineer at Oracle, but
>>>> this seems like a his own project. So much regarding the "Oracle
>>>> thought" part ...
>>>>
>>>> BTW I doubt the approach "Oracle does X => you should do X too" will be
>>>> fruitful here.
>>>>
>>>>> Need a Team lead on this, and I'll collaborate as much as I can on the
>>>>> Arduino / Networking side.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm a bit confused. What do you mean by "team lead"? I was thinking that
>>>> maybe this would be a fun project for the holidays, refreshing my
>>>> Arduino-fu. But no way I'm interested in being a TL of anything.
>>>>
>>>> I was messing with the PostgreSQL protocol [1] recently, and writing a
>>>> code implementing something like what the mysql connector does would be
>>>> quite trivial. A day of work, maybe two if you know networking but not
>>>> the protocol.
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>> Tomas
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.3/interactive/protocol.html
>>>>
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>>
>>
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