From: | Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>, Dean Rasheed <dean(dot)a(dot)rasheed(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Kouhei Kaigai <kaigai(at)ak(dot)jp(dot)nec(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Kohei KaiGai <kaigai(at)kaigai(dot)gr(dot)jp>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: WIP patch (v2) for updatable security barrier views |
Date: | 2014-01-28 03:34:56 |
Message-ID: | 52E72560.4080704@2ndquadrant.com |
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On 01/28/2014 12:09 AM, Simon Riggs wrote:
> On 27 January 2014 15:04, Dean Rasheed <dean(dot)a(dot)rasheed(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> So for example, when planning the query to update an inheritance
>> child, the rtable will contain an RTE for the parent, but it will not
>> be referenced in the parse tree, and so it will not be expanded while
>> planning the child update.
>
> Am I right in thinking that we have this fully working now?
I haven't found any further problems, though I've been focusing more on
reworking RLS on top of it.
> AFAICS the only area of objection is the handling of inherited
> relations, which occurs within the planner in the current patch. I can
> see that would be a cause for concern since the planner is pluggable
> and it would then be possible to bypass security checks. Obviously
> installing a new planner isn't trivial, but doing so shouldn't cause
> collateral damage.
FWIW, I don't see any way _not_ to do that in RLS. If there are security
quals on a child table, they must be added, and that can only happen
once inheritance expansion happens. That's in the planner.
I don't see it as acceptable to ignore security quals on child tables,
and if we can't, we've got to do some work in the planner.
(I'm starting to really loathe inheritance).
> We have long had restrictions around updateable views. My suggestion
> from here is that we accept the restriction that we cannot yet have
> the 3-way combination of updateable views, security views and views on
> inherited tables.
That prevents the use of updatable security barrier views over
partitioned tables, and therefore prevents row-security use on inherited
tables.
That seems like a very big thing to close off. I'm perfectly happy
having that limitation for 9.4, we just need to make it possible to
remove the limitation later.
> Most people aren't using inherited tables
Again, because we (ab)use them for paritioning, I'm not sure they're as
little-used as I'd like.
> and people that are have
> special measures in place for their apps. We won't lose much by
> accepting that restriction for 9.4 and re-addressing the issue in a
> later release.
Yep, I'd be happy with that.
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