Re: Standalone synchronous master

From: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To: Jim Nasby <jim(at)nasby(dot)net>, Hannu Krosing <hannu(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>, Florian Pflug <fgp(at)phlo(dot)org>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, MauMau <maumau307(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Kevin Grittner <kgrittn(at)ymail(dot)com>, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas(at)vmware(dot)com>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Rajeev rastogi <rajeev(dot)rastogi(at)huawei(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Standalone synchronous master
Date: 2014-01-13 21:30:07
Message-ID: 52D45ADF.4030907@commandprompt.com
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On 01/13/2014 01:14 PM, Jim Nasby wrote:
>
> On 1/13/14, 12:21 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>>
>> On 01/13/2014 10:12 AM, Hannu Krosing wrote:
>>>>> In other words, if we're going to have auto-degrade, the most
>>>>> intelligent place for it is in
>>>>> RepMgr/HandyRep/OmniPITR/pgPoolII/whatever. It's also the *easiest*
>>>>> place. Anything we do *inside* Postgres is going to have a really,
>>>>> really hard time determining when to degrade.
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> This is also how 2PC works, btw - the database provides the building
>>>> blocks, i.e. PREPARE and COMMIT, and leaves it to a transaction manager
>>>> to deal with issues that require a whole-cluster perspective.
>>>>
>>>
>>> ++1
>>
>> +1
>
> Josh, what do you think of the upthread idea of being able to recover
> in-progress transactions that are waiting when we turn off sync rep? I'm
> thinking that would be a very good feature to have... and it's not
> something you can easily do externally.

I think it is extremely valuable, else we have lost those transactions
which is exactly what we don't want.

JD

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