Re: SSL: better default ciphersuite

From: Adrian Klaver <adrian(dot)klaver(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: James Cloos <cloos(at)jhcloos(dot)com>, Postgres Hackers List <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Marko Kreen <markokr(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>
Subject: Re: SSL: better default ciphersuite
Date: 2013-12-17 19:01:22
Message-ID: 52B09F82.2070003@gmail.com
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On 12/17/2013 08:26 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 09:51:30AM -0500, Robert Haas wrote:
>> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 5:10 PM, James Cloos <cloos(at)jhcloos(dot)com> wrote:
>>> For reference, see:
>>>
>>> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Server_Side_TLS
>>>
>>> for the currently suggested suite for TLS servers.
>> ...
>>> But for pgsql, I'd leave off the !PSK; pre-shared keys may prove useful
>>> for some. And RC4, perhaps, also should be !ed.
>>>
>>> And if anyone wants Kerberos tls-authentication, one could add
>>> KRB5-DES-CBC3-SHA, but that is ssl3-only.
>>>
>>> Once salsa20-poly1305 lands in openssl, that should be added to the
>>> start of the list.
>>
>> I'm starting to think we should just leave this well enough alone. We
>> can't seem to find two people with the same idea of what would be
>> better than what we have now. And of course the point of making it a
>> setting in the first place is that each person can set it to whatever
>> they deem best.
>
> Yes, I am seeing that too. Can we agree on one that is _better_ than
> what we have now, even if we can't agree on a _best_ one?
>

Agreed. I would note that what is being proposed is a default that helps
those of us (myself included) that do not know ciphers in and out, start
with reasonable expectation of protection. This is a GUC so it can be
modified to suite personal taste.

--
Adrian Klaver
adrian(dot)klaver(at)gmail(dot)com

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