From: | Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Kohei KaiGai <kaigai(at)kaigai(dot)gr(dot)jp>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Row-security writer-side checks proposal |
Date: | 2013-11-06 07:36:32 |
Message-ID: | 5279F180.20005@2ndquadrant.com |
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On 11/05/2013 10:01 PM, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Robert Haas (robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com) wrote:
>> Now maybe that's fine. But given that, I think it's pretty
>> important that we get the syntax right. Because if you're adding
>> a feature primarily to add a more convenient syntax, then the
>> syntax had better actually be convenient.
>
> I agree that we want to get the syntax correct, but also very clear
> as it's security related and we don't want anyone surprised by what
> happens when they use it. The idea, as has been discussed in the
> past, is to then allow tying RLS in with SELinux and provide MAC.
That was my impression also.
To help get closer to that point, since you were involved in the work
on auto-updatable views: any hints on what might be needed to tackle
making security barrier views updatable?
There's a fun little wrinkle with MAC, by the way: functional indexes.
We can't allow the creation of a functional index, even by the table
owner, if it uses any non-LEAKPROOF operators and functions. Otherwise
the user can write a function to leak the rows, then create an index
using that function.
That's not a problem for the current phase of RLS because the table
owner is allowed to remove the RLS constraint directly. They can also
add triggers that might leak rows via CASCADEs, etc. When MAC comes
into the picture we'll need to impose limits on triggers and
functional indexes added to rows.
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Craig Ringer http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services
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