From: | Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> |
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To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Christopher Browne <cbbrowne(at)gmail(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Kevin Grittner <kgrittn(at)ymail(dot)com>, Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)heroku(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Auto-tuning work_mem and maintenance_work_mem |
Date: | 2013-10-10 22:27:17 |
Message-ID: | 525729C5.1040303@agliodbs.com |
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> More generally, Josh has made repeated comments that various proposed
> value/formulas for work_mem are too low, but obviously the people who
> suggested them didn't think so. So I'm a bit concerned that we don't
> all agree on what the end goal of this activity looks like.
The counter-proposal to "auto-tuning" is just to raise the default for
work_mem to 4MB or 8MB. Given that Bruce's current formula sets it at
6MB for a server with 8GB RAM, I don't really see the benefit of going
to a whole lot of code and formulas in order to end up at a figure only
incrementally different from a new static default.
The core issue here is that there aren't good "generic" values for these
settings for all users -- that's why we have the settings in the first
place. Following a formula isn't going to change that.
If we're serious about autotuning, then we should look at:
a) admissions control for non-shared resources (e.g. work_mem)
b) auto-feedback tuning loops (ala Heikki's checkpoint_segments and the
bgwriter).
We could certainly create an autofeedback tuning loop for work_mem.
Just watch the database, record the amount of data spilled to disk for
work (pg_stat_sorts), and record the total RAM pinned by backends.
*Then* apply a formula and maybe bump up work_mem a bit depending on
what comes out of it. And keep monitoring and keep readjusting.
--
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
http://pgexperts.com
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