From: | Hannu Krosing <hannu(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | Kevin Grittner <kgrittn(at)ymail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)fr>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Steve Singer <steve(at)ssinger(dot)info>, Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Hannu Krosing <hannu(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: record identical operator |
Date: | 2013-09-18 21:13:28 |
Message-ID: | 523A1778.9030504@2ndQuadrant.com |
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On 09/18/2013 09:41 PM, Kevin Grittner wrote:
> Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)fr> wrote:
>> Kevin Grittner <kgrittn(at)ymail(dot)com> writes:
>>> change, but if '1.4' was stored in a column copied into a matview
>>> and they later updated the source to '1.40' the increase in
>>> accuracy would not flow to the matview. That would be a bug, not a
>>> feature.
>> Maybe the answer to that use case is to use the seg extension?
>>
>> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.3/interactive/seg.html
> You are arguing that we should provide lesser support for numeric
> columns (and who knows how many other types) in materialized views
> than we do in streaming replication, pg_dump,
> suppress_redundant_updates_trigger(), and other places? Why?
>
>> IOW, colour me unconvinced about that binary-equality opclass use case
>> in MatViews. We are trusting the btree equality operator about
>> everywhere in PostgreSQL and it's quite disturbing to be told that in
>> fact we should not trust it.
> Who said we should not trust it? I have said that equality in
> PostgreSQL does not mean the two values appear the same or behave
> the same in all cases -- the definer of the class gets to determine
> how many definitions of equality there are, and which (if any) is
> tied to the = operator name. That should not be news to anybody;
> it's in the documentation. I'm proposing a second definition of
> equality with a different operator name for comparing two records,
> without in any way disturbing the existing definition.
Basically what proposed === does is "is guaranteed to be equal".
If it is not *guaranteed* it is safe to re-evaluate, either using
equal or something else.
--
Hannu Krosing
PostgreSQL Consultant
Performance, Scalability and High Availability
2ndQuadrant Nordic OÜ
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