Re: High Load on Postgres 7.4.16 Server

On 5-Apr-07, at 3:33 PM, John Allgood wrote:

> The hard thing about running multiple postmasters is that you have
> to tune
> each one separate. Most of the databases I have limited the max-
> connections
> to 30-50 depending on the database. What would reasonable values for
> effective_cache_size and random_page_cost. I think I have these
> default.
> Also what about kernel buffers on RHEL4.
>
random_page_cost should be left alone

Why do you run multiple postmasters ? I don't think this is not the
most efficient way to utilize your hardware.

Dave

> Thanks
>
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> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 3:24 PM
> To: John Allgood
> Cc: pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org
> Subject: Re: [PERFORM] High Load on Postgres 7.4.16 Server
>
> On Thu, 5 Apr 2007, John Allgood wrote:
>
>> Hello All
>>
>> I sent this message to the admin list and it never got through so I
>> am trying the performance list.
>> We moved our application to a new machine last night. It is a Dell
>> PowerEdge 6950 2X Dual Core. AMD Opteron 8214 2.2Ghz. 8GB Memory. The
>> machine is running Redhat AS 4 Upd 4 and Redhat Cluster Suite. The
>> SAN is
> an
>> EMC SAS connected via fibre. We are using Postgres 7.4.16. We have
> recently
>> had some major hardware issues and replaced the hardware with
>> brand new
> Dell
>> equipment. We expected a major performance increase over the previous
> being
>> the old equipment was nearly three years old
>> I will try and explain how things are configured. We have 10
>> separate postmasters running 5 on each node. Each of the
>> postmasters is a
>> single instance of each database. Each database is separated by
>> division
> and
>> also we have them separate so we can restart an postmaster with
>> needing to
>> restart all databases My largest database is about 7 GB. And the
>> others
> run
>> anywhere from 100MB - 1.8GB.
>> The other configuration was RHEL3 and Postgres 7.4.13 and Redhat
>> Cluster Suite. The application seemed to run much faster on the older
>> equipment.
>> My thoughts on the issues are that I could be something with the OS
>> tuning. Here is what my kernel.shmmax, kernel.shmall = 1073741824. Is
> there
>> something else that I could tune in the OS. My max_connections=35 and
> shared
>> buffers=8192 for my largest database.
>
> John,
>
> Was the SAN connected to the previous machine or is it also a new
> addition
> with the Dell hardware? We had a fairly recent post regarding a
> similar
> upgrade in which the SAN ended up being the problem, so the first
> thing I
> would do is test the SAN with bonnie-++ and/or move your
> application to use
> a
> local disk and test again. With 8GB of RAM, I'd probably set the
> shared_buffers to at least 50000...If I remember correctly, this
> was the
> most
> you could set it to on 7.4.x and continue benefitting from it. I'd
> strongly
>
> encourage you to upgrade to at least 8.1.8 (and possibly 8.2.3) if
> you can,
> as
> it has much better shared memory management. You might also want
> to double
> check your effective_cache_size and random_page_cost to see if they
> are set
> to
> reasonable values. Did you just copy the old postgresql.conf over?
>
> This is the beginning of the thread I mentioned above:
>
> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-performance/2007-03/msg00104.php
>
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