From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> |
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To: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
Cc: | Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Greg Smith <greg(dot)smith(at)crunchydata(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: Increase default maintenance_io_concurrency to 16 |
Date: | 2025-03-18 21:04:46 |
Message-ID: | 4p7gtb2nfr3njhgq7bmpe24unsbyoerlom7zrcu5sl2vyyutlp@ol5ywrm7j5ok |
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Hi,
On 2025-03-18 16:35:29 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Uh, the random_page_cost = 4 assumes caching, so it is assuming actual
> random I/O to be 40x slower, which I doubt is true for SSDs:
Uh, huh:
> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/runtime-config-query.html#RUNTIME-CONFIG-QUERY-CONSTANTS
>
> Random access to mechanical disk storage is normally much more expensive
> than four times sequential access. However, a lower default is used
> (4.0) because the majority of random accesses to disk, such as indexed
> reads, are assumed to be in cache. The default value can be thought of
> as modeling random access as 40 times slower than sequential, while
> expecting 90% of random reads to be cached.
Is that actually a good description of what we assume? I don't know where that
90% is coming from? Briefly skimming through selfuncs.c and costsize.c I don't
see anything.
The relevant change:
commit c1d9df4fa227781b31be44a5a3024865a7f48049
Author: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
Date: 2012-02-14 16:54:54 -0500
Document random page cost is only 4x seqeuntial, and not 40x.
The relevant discussion seems to be:
https://postgr.es/m/4F31A05A.1060506%402ndQuadrant.com
But I don't see any origin of that number in that thread.
I am not sure if I found the correct email for Greg Smith?
Greetings,
Andres Freund
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