Re: what's going on with lapwing?

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Andrew Dunstan <adunstan(at)postgresql(dot)org>, pgbuildfarm(at)rjuju(dot)net
Subject: Re: what's going on with lapwing?
Date: 2025-03-06 19:28:20
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Hi,

On 2025-03-06 14:13:40 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> > On Thu, Mar 6, 2025 at 1:07 PM Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> >> Maybe invent a build-farm.conf option like "newest_branch_to_build"?
>
> > Yes, that would be nice. I also think we should mandate the use of
> > that option for OS versions that are EOL for more than X years, for
> > some to-be-determined value of X, like maybe 3 or something.
>
> It's hard to "mandate" anything in a distributed project like this.
> I don't really see a need to either, at least for cases where an
> old animal isn't causing us extra work.

Lapwing *has* caused extra work though, repeatedly.

> When it does, though, it'd be nice to be able to decide "we're not gonna
> support that OS version beyond PG nn", and then have a simple recipe to give
> the BF owner that's less drastic than "shut it down".

The BF is there to be useful for PG development. BF owners contribute them for
that purpose. I don't think we need to keep animals alive when they're past
their shelf life, just to make the animal's owners happy - I suspect most
won't want to keep an animal alive that we don't want.

That said, I'd be happy if the BF had a slightly easier way to configure "up
to this major version".

Greetings,

Andres

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