Re: Sample rate added to pg_stat_statements

From: Ilia Evdokimov <ilya(dot)evdokimov(at)tantorlabs(dot)com>
To: Sami Imseih <samimseih(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Andrey M(dot) Borodin" <x4mmm(at)yandex-team(dot)ru>
Cc: Alexander Korotkov <aekorotkov(at)gmail(dot)com>, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, Greg Sabino Mullane <htamfids(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Sample rate added to pg_stat_statements
Date: 2025-01-07 22:07:57
Message-ID: 4fe22ea2-d366-42f4-92bb-de35d11aa766@tantorlabs.com
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On 07.01.2025 22:29, Sami Imseih wrote:
>>> You are right. This is absolutely unexpected for users. Thank you for
>>> the review.
>>>
>>> To fix this, I suggest storing a random number in the [0, 1) range in a
>>> separate variable, which will be used for comparisons in any place. We
>>> will compare 'sample_rate' and random value not only in
>>> pgss_post_parse_analyze(), but also in pgss_ProcessUtility() and
>>> pgss_planner().
>>>
>>> I attached patch with test and fixes.
> I still think this is not the correct approach. It seems that post_parse_analyze
> should not have to deal with checking for a sample rate. This is because
> post_parse_analyze, which is the only hook with access to jstate, is
> only responsible
> for storing a normalized query text on disk and creating a not-yet
> user visible entry
> in the hash. i.e. pgss_store will never increment counters when called from
> pgss_post_parse_analyze.
>
> /* Increment the counts, except when jstate is not NULL */
> if (!jstate)
> {
>
> What I think may be a better idea is to add something similar
> to auto_explain.c, but it should only be added to the top of
> pgss_planner, pgss_ExecutorStart and pgss_ProcessUtility.
>
> if (nesting_level == 0)
> {
> if (!IsParallelWorker())
> current_query_sampled = pg_prng_double(&pg_global_prng_state) <
> pgss_sample_rate;
> else
> current_query_sampled = false;
> }
>
> This is needed for ExecutorStart and not ExecutorEnd because
> ExecutorStart is where the instrumentation is initialized with
> queryDesc->totaltime. The above code block could be
> turned into a macro and reused in the routines mentioned.
>
> However, it seems with this change, we can see a much
> higher likelihood of non-normalized query texts being stored.
> This is because jstate is only available during post_parse_analyze.
> Therefore, if the first time you are sampling the statement is in ExecutorEnd,
> then you will end up storing a non-normalized version of the query text,
> see below example with the attached v8.
>
> postgres=# set pg_stat_statements.sample_rate = 0;
> SET
> postgres=# select pg_stat_statements_reset();
> pg_stat_statements_reset
> -------------------------------
> 2025-01-07 13:02:11.807952-06
> (1 row)
>
> postgres=# SELECT 1 \parse stmt
>
> postgres=# \bind_named stmt \g
> ?column?
> ----------
> 1
> (1 row)
>
> postgres=# \bind_named stmt \g
> ?column?
> ----------
> 1
> (1 row)
>
> postgres=# SELECT query, calls FROM pg_stat_statements;
> query | calls
> -------+-------
> (0 rows)
>
> postgres=# set pg_stat_statements.sample_rate = 1;
> SET
> postgres=# \bind_named stmt \g
> ?column?
> ----------
> 1
> (1 row)
>
> postgres=# \bind_named stmt \g
> ?column?
> ----------
> 1
> (1 row)
>
> postgres=# SELECT query, calls FROM pg_stat_statements;
> query | calls
> -------+-------
> (0 rows)
>
> postgres=# \bind_named stmt \g
> ?column?
> ----------
> 1
> (1 row)
>
> postgres=# SELECT query, calls FROM pg_stat_statements;
> query | calls
> ---------------------------------------------+-------
> SELECT 1 | 1
> SELECT query, calls FROM pg_stat_statements | 1
> (2 rows)
>
> postgres=# \bind_named stmt \g
> ?column?
> ----------
> 1
> (1 row)
>
> postgres=# SELECT query, calls FROM pg_stat_statements;
> query | calls
> ---------------------------------------------+-------
> SELECT 1 | 2
> SELECT query, calls FROM pg_stat_statements | 2
> (2 rows)
>
> One idea is to make jstate available to all hooks, and completely
> remove reliance on post_parse_analyze in pg_stat_statements.
> I can't find the thread now, but I know this has come up in past discussions
> when troubleshooting gaps in query normalization. My concern is this
> feature will greatly increase the likelihood of non-normalized query texts.
>
> Also, with regards to the benchmarks, it seems
> sampling will be beneficial for workloads that are touching a small number
> of entries with high concurrency. This is why we see benefit for
> a standard pgbench workload.
> Samping becomes less beneficial when there is a large set of queries
> being updated.
> I still think this is a good approach for workloads that touch a small set
> of entries.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sami
>
>

Wow, thank you for pointing this out. Your solution looks interesting,
but I'd like to explore other ways to solve the issue besides making it
available to all hooks. If I don't find anything better, I'll go with yours.

--
Best regards,
Ilia Evdokimov,
Tantor Labs LLC.

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