Re: Bug tracker tool we need

Magnus Hagander wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 23:48, Jay Levitt<jay(dot)levitt(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>> - Familiarity: Many developers already have a GitHub account and use it
> Most of the more senior developers don't use github. Other than
> possibly as a place to store a plain git repository. So that's not
> really relevant.

I meant outside developers - the folks you'd like to see more involved in
the process.

>> - Patch commenting and git integration encourage actual review-resubmit
>> cycles instead of "Here, look, I fixed it for you" reviews
>
> The amount of spam coming through that system, and the
> inability/unwillingness of github to even care about it is a killer
> argument *against* github.
>
> We have working antispam for email. The github antispam is somewhere
> around where email antispam was in 1994.

Interesting; I haven't run into this but you're the second person to mention
it here. Antispam is (in the large) a technically unsolvable problem; even
in the '90s, we'd see hackers start poking at our newest countermeasures
within the hour. GitHub is a giant target, and PG probably benefits here
from NOT being one. (A quick Google shows redmine and especially Trac having
spam issues of their own.)

Pedantic note/fun fact: There was no email antispam in 1994; Canter & Siegel
posted their infamous USENET Green Card spam that year, but it didn't really
spread to email for another year or two. Once it did, there were fervent
debates about whether it should be called "velveeta" to distinguish from the
USENET variety.

>> GitHub could well be a non-starter, but if third-party-dependence is really
>> the holdup, I'd volunteer to write the tools - in fact, a google of [export
>> issues from github] shows a few that might already suffice.
>
> It *is* a non-starter, because (a) it's a third party dependency, and
> (b) AFAIK they don't provide *data access* to the issue trackers.

Sure they do:

http://developer.github.com/v3/issues/

Jay