Re: Multithreaded query onto 4 postgresql instances

> On 14 Feb 2011, at 9:38, Alessandro Candini wrote:
>
>> I performed tests with a query returning more or less 100000 records and using my C module I obtain the following results (every test performed cleaning cache before):
>> - single db: 9.555 sec
>> - splitted in 4: 5.496 sec
> Is that a single query on that one DB compared to 4 queries on 4 DB's? How does a single DB with 4 parallel queries perform? I'd expect that to win from 4 DB's, due to the overhead those extra DB instances are generating.
> I do suppose you tried tuning that DB before you started making things complicated?
>

Maybe my configuration and test is not clear

Single instance ---> 600 millions of records in one single db (port
5433) ---> query of 100000 records ---> 9.555 sec

Splitted instances:
600 millions of records in total splitted into 4 postgresql instances
(port 5433, 5434, 5435, 5436), let's say more or less:

5433 ---> 150 millions of records
5434 ---> 150 millions of records
5435 ---> 150 millions of records
5436 ---> 150 millions of records

I've launched the same query reported above with 4 concurrent threads
using a C program with libpq, which merges the results also,
returning the same ordered 100000 tuples retrieved in the single db case
but in 5.496 sec.
>> So I think this can be a good approach...
>> I have already read this
>>
>> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.0/interactive/xfunc-c.html
> Did you read all the way to section 35.9.10? That explains how to create SRF's like yours, including examples. If the step from simple functions to SRF's is too large for you, create a few sample-functions to learn how the intermediary steps work. We can't upload the info to your brain, after all - you'll have to do the learning part by yourself.
>
Do you think is a good idea continue using libpq or should I abandon
them and focus on postgresql documentation examples?
>> I posted it in my previous thread. But it is not clear to me how to embed my C function into postgresql.
>> I mean, I know how to compile and insert it into postgresql, I've already done it for simple function which return a boolean, for example.
>> But it is not clear to me how to do this if I want as return a complete table, or set of rows...
>> Can you give me a minimalistic example?
> I'm not aware of any difference between adding a function returning a scalar vs. one that returns a set. You have to create a wrapper function to your library so that PG knows about your function, but apart from the return types (BOOLEAN vs. SETOF something), that declaration is exactly the same.
>
>> By the way, my goal is to perform a SELECT query in the smallest time possible.
>> For that reason an SQL function is not good beacuse slower than a C function...
> I have no idea what you're referring to, since you're top-posting, but I never suggested to use SQL functions. I just pointed out that the document you linked was about SQL functions instead of C functions, in the assumption that was what was causing your confusion. You didn't explain what you were confused about after all, I had to guess.
>
You're right, I copy/pasted the wrong link, sorry.
>>> On 10 Feb 2011, at 9:01, Alessandro Candini wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have installed 4 different instances of postgresql-9.0.2 on the same machine, on ports 5433, 5434, 5435, 5436.
>>> I do hope you intend to put those databases on different machines eventually, or some such? Otherwise you probably didn't gain anything by splitting your database up like that - you've just reduced the available resources on that single machine.
>>>
>>>> Why I have to do something tricky like this is long too explain...
>>> It would help to know what you're trying to achieve by splitting your database up like this. We don't need the full story, just a summary is fine; Maybe this is some experimental setup that's more related to multi-threading than to the actual database design? Maybe management smoked something outlandish and put you up with this? Maybe this is a macroscopic attempt to table partitioning?
>>>
>>>> Then I have developed a C function using libpq which creates 4 threads, each one which query a 1/4 of the db. After that I merge the results in one single response.
>>>>
>>>> My function works fine, but I need to include it inside a postgresql instance in order to launch it as a normal SQL query (SELECT myfunc(...);).
>>>> I have read the documentation here http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.0/static/xfunc-sql.html#XFUNC-SQL-FUNCTIONS-RETURNING-SET, but I'm pretty confuse and I don't know if this is the right way to accomplish my goal.
>>> What are you confused about? That's a chapter about set-returning functions written in SQL - perhaps you're looking for information about set-returning functions from an external library like yours? Perhaps you're looking for: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.0/interactive/xfunc-c.html
>>>
>>> You say you don't know if this is the right way to accomplish your goal - which is...?
>>>
>>>> Have you got any ideas or suggestions?
>>> As others have suggested, you should probably have a look at table-partitioning, possibly in combination with tablespaces if you want to divide your database among multiple disks/filesystems. Putting them in different servers on the same hardware is probably not going to be a very good solution. As you've already found out, it makes querying the data silly difficult. But, we don't know the reason you're doing that of course.
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