Re: BYTEA / DBD::Pg change in 9.0 beta

From: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Alex Hunsaker <badalex(at)gmail(dot)com>, Kenneth Marshall <ktm(at)rice(dot)edu>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Bernd Helmle <mailings(at)oopsware(dot)de>, Jesper Krogh <jesper(at)krogh(dot)cc>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: BYTEA / DBD::Pg change in 9.0 beta
Date: 2010-05-19 16:38:16
Message-ID: 4BF413F8.4020104@kaltenbrunner.cc
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On 05/19/2010 12:32 PM, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Stefan Kaltenbrunner
> <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc> wrote:
>>> I think it just depends on whether we're likely to get releases from
>>> Linux vendors that include PG 9.0 but not the updated drivers. I'm
>>> not sure their schedule will be affected by whether we call it 8.5 or
>>> 9.0.
>>
>> that's a fair point (like I expect debian to provide 9.0 as a backport)
>> though the packages could just change the default for that backport.
>> The precedence for that is standard_conforming_strings which we now have
>> for a while(since 8.2 iirc) - though I don't think we have a firm plan
>> on when we are actually going to turn it on...
>> Not sure if we really need to wait 4 major releases to allow driver
>> developers to adapt...
>> So one idea would be to turn it off for 9.1 and enable that and scs for
>> 9.1 and try to get driver developers attention early in the release cycle.
>
> I think we previously discussed flipping standard_conforming_strings
> at the beginning of the 9.1 cycle, and I'm still OK with that. Not
> sure it bears on the present issue, though.

well we might want to get a bit more formal with deprecating things now
that we have an official EOL policy for the server. Maybe we should
consider adding stuff like scs, bytea output format,add_missing_from
there as well with a depcreation & removal/cnage notice.
On the other side we tend to break drivers with other stuff in almost
every release in some way or another anyway (iirc we broke JDBC in 9.0
already) so maybe that is a mood point.

Stefan

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