Re: Row-level Locks & SERIALIZABLE transactions, postgres vs. Oracle

From: "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin(dot)Grittner(at)wicourts(dot)gov>
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Subject: Re: Row-level Locks & SERIALIZABLE transactions, postgres vs. Oracle
Date: 2010-05-14 10:56:37
Message-ID: 4BECE6150200002500031702@gw.wicourts.gov
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Florian Pflug wrote:

> I'm very exited about the work you're doing

Always nice to hear. :-)

> I view my proposal as pretty orthogonal to that work.

> My proposal allows for simple FK-like constraints to be
> implemented at user-level that are correct for all isolation
> levels.

OK, I can see the attraction in that.

> True serializable transaction are much more powerful than what I
> proposed, but at a much higher price too, due to the necessity of
> SIREAD locks.

I think that SIREAD locks will generally be cheaper than SELECT FOR
UPDATE, since the former don't require any disk I/O and the latter
do. I only have one benchmark so far (more on the way), but it
attempts to isolate the cost of acquiring the SIREAD locks by using
a read-only load against a fully cached database. Benchmarks so far
show the new version of the SERIALIZABLE level as supporting 1.8%
fewer TPS than REPEATABLE READ (the existing snapshot isolation
level) in that environment. That will probably disappear into the
noise for any load involving disk I/O.

Now *rollbacks*, particularly those due to false positives, might
become a more serious issue in some pessimal loads, but I'm still
working on developing meaningful benchmarks for that.

I guess what I'm suggesting is that unless you have a very small
database with a very large number of connections in a high
contention workload, or you can't require SERIALIZABLE transaction
isolation level, SSI might actually perform better than what you're
proposing. Of course, that's all conjecture until there are
benchmarks; but I'd be very interested in getting any and all
alternative solutions like this worked into a benchmark -- where I
can pull out the FOR UPDATE and FOR SHARE clauses, any redundant
updates or denormalizations added just for concurrency issues, and
all explicit locking -- and compare that under SERIALIZABLE to the
original performance.

-Kevin

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