From: | Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> |
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To: | Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: recovery_connections cannot start (was Re: master in standby mode croaks) |
Date: | 2010-04-23 09:24:43 |
Message-ID: | 4BD1675B.1040104@enterprisedb.com |
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Fujii Masao wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>> One way we could fix this is use 2 bits rather than 1 for
>> XLogStandbyInfoMode. One bit could indicate that either
>> archive_mode=on or max_wal_senders>0, and the second bit could
>> indicate that recovery_connections=on. If the second bit is unset, we
>> could emit the existing complaint:
>>
>> recovery connections cannot start because the recovery_connections
>> parameter is disabled on the WAL source server
>>
>> If the other bit is unset, then we could instead complain:
>>
>> recovery connections cannot start because archive_mode=off and
>> max_wal_senders=0 on the WAL source server
>>
>> If we don't want to use two bits there, it's hard to really describe
>> all the possibilities in a reasonable number of characters. The only
>> thing I can think of is to print a message and a hint:
>>
>> recovery_connections cannot start due to incorrect settings on the WAL
>> source server
>> HINT: make sure recovery_connections=on and either archive_mode=on or
>> max_wal_senders>0
>>
>> I haven't checked whether the hint would be displayed in the log on
>> the standby, but presumably we could make that be the case if it's not
>> already.
>>
>> I think the first way is better because it gives the user more
>> specific information about what they need to fix. Thinking about how
>> each case might happen, since the default for recovery_connections is
>> 'on', it seems that recovery_connections=off will likely only be an
>> issue if the user has explicitly turned it off. The other case, where
>> archive_mode=off and max_wal_senders=0, will likely only occur if
>> someone takes a snapshot of the master without first setting up
>> archiving or SR. Both of these will probably happen relatively
>> rarely, but since we're burning a whole byte for XLogStandbyInfoMode
>> (plus 3 more bytes of padding?), it seems like we might as well snag
>> one more bit for clarity.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>
> I like the second choice since it's simpler and enough for me.
> But I have no objection to the first.
>
> When we encounter the error, we would need to not only change
> those parameter values but also take a fresh base backup and
> restart the standby using it. The description of this required
> procedure needs to be in the document or error message, I think.
I quite liked Robert's proposal to add an explicit GUC to control what
extra information is logged
(http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2010-04/msg00509.php) It
is quite difficult to explain the current behavior, a simple explicit
wal_mode GUC would be a lot simpler. It wouldn't add any extra steps to
setting the system up, you currently need to set archive_mode='on'
anyway to enable archiving. You would just set wal_mode='archive' or
wal_mode='standby' instead, depending on what you want to do with the WAL.
--
Heikki Linnakangas
EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com
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