Re: Win32 timezone matching

From: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc>
To: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Win32 timezone matching
Date: 2010-04-07 18:36:27
Message-ID: 4BBCD0AB.4030308@kaltenbrunner.cc
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Magnus Hagander wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Stefan Kaltenbrunner
>> <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc> wrote:
>>> Tom Lane wrote:
>>>> Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc> writes:
>>>>> hmm all that code makes me wonder a bit about a more general issue - is
>>>>> the "fallback to GMT if we fail to actually make sense of the right imezone
>>>>> to use" actually a good idea?
>>>> What alternative are you proposing? Failing to start the server doesn't
>>>> seem like an attractive choice.
>>> why not? we do error out in a lot of other cases as well... Personally I
>>> find a hard and clear "something is wrong please fix" much more convinient
>>> than defaulting to something that is more or less completely arbitrary but
>>> well...
>> While I can understand why someone might want that behavior in some
>> cases, in other cases it might be a severe overreaction.
>
> I think the dangerous scenario is if it worked, and then stopped
> working. In that case, the database will change it's behavior and it
> might go unnoticed. If it's wrong on first install, it'll likely get
> noticed..

yeah that is one aspect - and in talking to the OP he would have
prefered the database not starting up at all, logging an error and a
hint on setting a fixed timezone in the conf.
Even if if keep the current fallback behaviour we should at least fix
the windows codepath to do the same as the unix codepath does - as in
actually logging that the fallback to GMT happened...

Stefan

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