From: | Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> |
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To: | Aidan Van Dyk <aidan(at)highrise(dot)ca> |
Cc: | Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Make standby server continuously retry restoring the next WAL |
Date: | 2010-02-11 17:04:41 |
Message-ID: | 4B7438A9.8090902@enterprisedb.com |
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Aidan Van Dyk wrote:
> * Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> [100211 09:17]:
>
>> If the file is just being copied to the archive when restore_command
>> ('cp', say) is launched, it will copy a half file. That's not a problem
>> for PITR, because PITR will end at the end of valid WAL anyway, but
>> returning a half WAL file in standby mode is a problem.
>
> But it can be a problem - without the last WAL (or at least enough of
> it) the master switched and archived, you have no guarantee of having
> being consistent again (I'm thinking specifically of recovering from a
> fresh backup)
You have to wait for the last WAL file required by the backup to be
archived before starting recovery. Otherwise there's no guarantee anyway.
>> We could well just document that you should do that, ie. make sure the
>> file appears in the archive atomically with the right size.
>
> I have to admit, today was the first time I went and re-read the PITR
> docs, and no, the docs don't seem to talk about that... Maybe it was
> just plain obvious to me because it (the atomic apperance) is something
> unix devloppers have always had to deal with, so it's ingrained in me.
> But I'm *sure* that I've seen that bandied around as common knowledge on
> the lists, and one of the reasons we alway see warnings about using
> rsync instead of plain SCP, etc.
>
> So ya, we should probably mention that somewhere in the docs. Section
> 24.3.6. Caveats?
-1. it isn't necessary for PITR. It's a new requirement for
standby_mode='on', unless we add the file size check into the backend. I
think we should add the file size check to the backend instead and save
admins the headache.
--
Heikki Linnakangas
EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com
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