Re: [PATCH] ACE Framework - Database, Schema

From: KaiGai Kohei <kaigai(at)kaigai(dot)gr(dot)jp>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: KaiGai Kohei <kaigai(at)ak(dot)jp(dot)nec(dot)com>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, PgSQL-Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ACE Framework - Database, Schema
Date: 2009-12-14 12:30:49
Message-ID: 4B262FF9.2090305@kaigai.gr.jp
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(2009/12/14 20:48), Robert Haas wrote:
> 2009/12/14 KaiGai Kohei<kaigai(at)ak(dot)jp(dot)nec(dot)com>:
>> Robert Haas wrote:
>>> 2009/12/13 KaiGai Kohei<kaigai(at)ak(dot)jp(dot)nec(dot)com>:
>>>>> Just to name a few really obvious problems (I only looked at the
>>>>> 01-database patch):
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. We have been talking for several days about the need to make the
>>>>> initial patch in this area strictly a code cleanup patch. Is this
>>>>> cleaner than the code that it is replacing? Is it even making an
>>>>> attempt to conform to that mandate?
>>>> Even if it is unclear whether the current form is more clear than the
>>>> current inlined pg_xxx_aclcheck() form, or not, it will obviously
>>>> provide a set of common entry points for upcoming enhanced security
>>>> providers.
>>>> Eventually, it is more clear than enumeration of #ifdef ... #endif
>>>> blocks for SELinux, Smack, Solaris-TX and others.
>>>
>>> Right, but it will also not get committed. :-(
>>
>> The framework will be necessary to get them committed.
>> Which is an egg, and which is a chicken? :-(
>
> We've been around that path a few times, but that's not my point here.
> Doing the framework first makes a lot of sense; the problem is that
> we just had a design discussion regarding that framework and you've
> chosen to do something other than what was discussed. Did you not
> read that discussion? Did you not understand it?

Please point out, if my understanding is incorrect from the discussion
in a few days.

* As a draft of the discussion, I have to split out the access control
reworks patch in the 2nd CF per object classes.
* This framework supports only the default PG privileges at the moment.
* The way to host enhanced security providers are not decided.
(Maybe #ifdef ... #endif block, Maybe function pointer)
* It is not decided how many security labels are assigned on a database
object. (Maybe 1:1, Maybe 1:n)

I don't intend to go to something undecided, but, might understand
something incorrectly or not be able to follow the discussion enough.

Thanks,
--
KaiGai Kohei <kaigai(at)kaigai(dot)gr(dot)jp>

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