From: | Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net> |
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To: | Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com> |
Cc: | Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Mikael Krantz <mk(at)zigamorph(dot)se>, pgsql-bugs(at)postgresql(dot)org, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: [HACKERS] Re: BUG #4796: Recovery followed by backup creates unrecoverable WAL-file |
Date: | 2009-05-15 14:17:36 |
Message-ID: | 4A0D7980.4000900@dunslane.net |
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Simon Riggs wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 22:56 +0900, Fujii Masao wrote:
>
>
>> OK, I probably understood your point. The timeline history files whose
>> timeline ID is larger than that of an oldest backup must not be deleted
>> from the archive. On the other hand, the smaller or equal one can be
>> deleted. Not all history files are necessary. So, if we don't keep older
>> backup, we probably can delete all files in the archive before
>> pg_start_backup().
>> Is my understanding right?
>>
>
> Heikki is right in one sense: if you do pg_start_backup() then for
> *that* backup you do not need earlier files.
>
> However, as you have pointed out, if you have *multiple* backups then
> deleting history files may cause problems with an earlier backup.
>
> It's standard practice to have >1 backup, so there is potential for
> error and minimum is we must document that.
>
> Rather than explaining the problem and the rules by which we can work
> out exactly which history files to keep, I think it is safer to say that
> we must keep all history files.
>
>
This whole area is unfortunately way too fragile. We need some way of
managing these facilities that hides a lot of these details and is
therefore less likely to produce shot feet, IMNSHO. I get very nervous
every time I have to touch it.
cheers
andrew
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