From: | Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> |
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To: | Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com> |
Cc: | Greg Stark <greg(dot)stark(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: lazy_truncate_heap() |
Date: | 2009-01-04 11:01:56 |
Message-ID: | 49609724.6090006@enterprisedb.com |
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Simon Riggs wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-01-01 at 12:00 +0200, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
>> Greg Stark wrote:
>>> On 31 Dec 2008, at 13:21, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>>>> Both of these bugs are minor, but the effect of either/both of them is
>>>> to cause more AccessExclusiveLocks than we might expect.
>>>>
>>>> For Hot Standby this means that many VACUUMs take AccessExclusiveLocks
>>>> on relations, which would potentially lead to having queries cancelled
>>>> for no reason at all.
>>> Well by default it would just cause wal to pause briefly until the
>>> queries with those locks finish, no?
>> Wait a minute. Why does an AccessExclusiveLock lead to cancelled queries
>> or pausing WAL application? I thought it'd just block other queries
>> trying to acquire a conflicting lock in the standby, just like holding
>> an AccessExclusiveLock on the primary does. It's unrelated to the xmin
>> horizon issue.
>
> Yes, it is unrelated to the xmin horizon issue. There are two reasons
> for delaying WAL apply:
> * locks
> * xmin horizon
>
> When a lock is acquired on the primary it almost always precedes an
> action which cannot occur concurrently. For example, if VACUUM did
> truncate a table then queries could get errors because parts of their
> table disappear from under them. Others are drop table etc..
Have you implemented the query cancellation mechanism for that scenario
too? (I'm cool either way, just curious..)
--
Heikki Linnakangas
EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com
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