Re: Prototype: In-place upgrade v02

From: Zdenek Kotala <Zdenek(dot)Kotala(at)Sun(dot)COM>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Prototype: In-place upgrade v02
Date: 2008-09-08 13:27:40
Message-ID: 48C5284C.8010305@sun.com
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Tom Lane napsal(a):
> Zdenek Kotala <Zdenek(dot)Kotala(at)Sun(dot)COM> writes:
>> Another idea is to create backward compatible AM and put them into separate
>> library. If these AM will work also with old page structure then there should
>> not be reason for reindexing or index page conversion after upgrade.
>
> I don't think that'd be real workable. It would require duplicating all
> the entries for that AM in pg_opfamily, pg_amop, etc. Which we could do
> for the built-in entries, I suppose, but what happens to user-defined
> operator classes?

When catalog upgrade will be performed directly, user-defined op classes should
stay in the catalog. But question is what's happen with regproc records and if
all functions will be compatible with a new server ... It invokes idea that we
need stable API for operator and data types implementation. All datatype which
will use only this API, then can be used on new PostgreSQL versions without
recompilation.

> At least for the index changes proposed so far for 8.4, it seems to me
> that the best solution is to mark affected indexes as not "indisvalid"
> and require a post-conversion REINDEX to fix 'em. Obviously a better
> solution would be nice later, but we have to avoid putting huge amounts
> of work into noncritical problems, else the whole feature is just not
> going to get finished.

Agree.

Zdenek

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