Re: dbt2 NOTPM numbers

On Jun 4, 2007, at 1:56 PM, Markus Schiltknecht wrote:
> Simplistic throughput testing with dd:
>
> dd of=test if=/dev/zero bs=10K count=800000
> 800000+0 records in
> 800000+0 records out
> 8192000000 bytes (8.2 GB) copied, 37.3552 seconds, 219 MB/s
> pamonth:/opt/dbt2/bb# dd if=test of=/dev/zero bs=10K count=800000
> 800000+0 records in
> 800000+0 records out
> 8192000000 bytes (8.2 GB) copied, 27.6856 seconds, 296 MB/s

I don't think that kind of testing is useful for good raid
controllers on RAID5/6, because the controller will just be streaming
the data out; it'll compute the parity blocks on the fly and just
stream data to the drives as fast as possible.

But that's not how writes in the database work (except for WAL);
you're writing stuff all over the place, none of which is streamed.
So in the best case (the entire stripe being updated is in the
controller's cache), at a minimum it's going to have to write data +
parity ( * 2 for RAID 6, IIRC) for every write. But any real-sized
database is going to be far larger than your raid cache, which means
there's a good chance a block being written will no longer have it's
stripe in cache. In that case, the controller is going to have to
read a bunch of data back off the drive, which is going to clobber
performance.

Now, add that performance bottleneck on top of your WAL writes and
you're in real trouble.

BTW, I was thinking in terms of stripe size when I wrote this, but I
don't know if good controllers actually need to deal with things at a
stripe level, or if they can deal with smaller chunks of a stripe. In
either case, the issue is still the number of extra reads going on.
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