Re: Skytools committed without hackers discussion/review

From: Jan Wieck <JanWieck(at)Yahoo(dot)com>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Marko Kreen <markokr(at)gmail(dot)com>, Jan Wieck <wieck(at)postgresql(dot)org>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Skytools committed without hackers discussion/review
Date: 2007-10-09 20:58:07
Message-ID: 470BEB5F.70106@Yahoo.com
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On 10/9/2007 4:22 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Jan Wieck wrote:
>> > I don't see how timing has anything to do with this. You could have
>> > added it between beta1 and beta2 after sufficient hackers discussion.
>> > Doing it the way you did with no warning, right before beta, and then
>> > leaving is the worse of all times. I am surprised we are not backing
>> > out the patch and requiring that the patch go through the formal review
>> > process.
>> >
>> > This is not the first time you have had trouble with patches. There was
>> > an issue with your patch of February, 2007:
>> >
>> > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2007-02/msg00385.php
>>
>> That email might contain the keyword COMMIT, but it doesn't have to do
>> with anything I committed to CVS. The trigger changes you are referring
>> to have been discussed and a patch for discussion was presented here:
>>
>> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2007-02/msg00146.php
>
> Right, but at the time you didn't want to give a good explaination and I
> had to ask for it. That should not have been necessary.
>
>> > (In summary, you had to be coaxed to explain your patch to the
>> > community.) Basically, I am not sure you understand the process that
>> > has to be followed, or feel you are somehow immune from following it.
>>
>> I don't see how you leap from the above example to that conclusion.
>
> You have had only a few commits in 2007, and there have been two
> problems. That ratio seems too high to me, hence my questions above.

You are misrepresenting the situation. The discussion about the commit
timestamp, where you asked for a complete functional specification of a
multimaster replication system based on it before anything should be
done feature wise at all, was not about any CVS activity that happened.

Jan

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