From: | Jan Wieck <JanWieck(at)Yahoo(dot)com> |
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To: | "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com> |
Cc: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Derek Rodner <derek(dot)rodner(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Using Postgres as an alias |
Date: | 2007-09-29 19:09:26 |
Message-ID: | 46FEA2E6.20606@Yahoo.com |
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On 9/26/2007 4:35 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
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> Bruce Momjian wrote:
>> Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>>> Derek Rodner wrote:
>>>> In presentations, articles, blogs, etc. Any publicly visible spot.
>>> This is assuming the name of the project has changed. It hasn't. The
>>> name of this project is PostgreSQL.
>>
>> But without such changes the alias is only in the FAQ and will not be
>> widely used.
>
> I am unsure of the importance of this point. The name of the project is
> PostgreSQL, not Postgres. If the alias doesn't get used, who cares.
It seems you care very much for "the alias not getting used".
Jan
>
>>
>>> This whole thread stinks of... I couldn't get my way and change the name
>>> outright so instead I will subvert my will through alternative means...
>>
>> Well, actually, I see it the opposite where you brow-beat folks until
>> you think they will quit. (I am not a quitter, which I think you know.)
>> And I certainly do think the name change will finally be made, so I
>> don't feel like I have to subvert anything.
>>
>
> Well at least you are honest :) but consider that (I am not a quitter,
> which I think you know.)
>
> So you and I are going to be at this *a long* time.
>
>> I thought it would not be a controversial change because I already
>> stated I wanted to make the alias more visible and no one objected. Now
>> I have a few objections and a lot of people who think it is a good idea.
>>
>
> If you review the thread it appears that the equation is similar to that
> of the name change... e.g; no clear majority.
>
>> Frankly, if the alias takes hold we might not need to make the full name
>> change -- supressing this idea now might actually hasten the name
>> change.
>
>>> The community "just" accepted the FAQ change, and now you want to start
>>> this?
>>>
>>> Let it lay.
>>
>> Again, why shut down the discussion?
>
> Because.. silence is not approval the longer this thread goes on, the
> more likely it will only be the very few participating. Likely the few
> on core that participate and the few long time contributors such as myself.
>
> Which means, it will never end, and continue to polarize external
> community and people will just give up. That isn't good.
>
> Brow beating is not good. It is negative and counter productive. You
> won't win anything, but you certainly may cause a lot of antagonism (as
> may I with my alternate view).
>
> Note that this may be worth while in the future, but all things come in
> time and I don't think this is the right time.
>
> Joshua D. Drake
>
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