From: | Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc> |
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To: | "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com> |
Cc: | Gregory Stark <stark(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Bernd Helmle <mailings(at)oopsware(dot)de>, mfatticcioni(at)mbigroup(dot)it, pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: DRBD and Postgres: how to improve the perfomance? |
Date: | 2007-09-08 17:25:24 |
Message-ID: | 46E2DB04.1080803@kaltenbrunner.cc |
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Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote:
>> Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>>> Gregory Stark wrote:
>>>> "Simon Riggs" <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> writes:
>>>>> You're right, but the distinction is a small one. What are the chances
>>>>> of losing two independent servers within a few milliseconds of each
>>>>> other?
>>>> If they're on the same power bus?
>>> That chance is minuscule or at least should be. Of course we are
>>> assuming some level of conditioned power that is independent of the
>>> power bus, e.g; a UPS.
>> how is that making it different in practise ? - if both are on the same
>> UPS they are affectively on the same power bus ...
>
> Well I was thinking the bus that is in the wall. I would assume that
> people were smart enough to have independent UPS systems for each server.
>
> city power->line conditioning generator->panel->plug->UPS->server
>
> wash, rinse repeat.
the typical datacenter version of this is actually more like:
city power->UPS (with generator in parallel)->panel->plug
or
city power->flywheel->(maybe UPS)->panel->plug
it is not really that common to have say two different UPS feeds in your
rack (at least not for normal housing or the average corporate
datacenter) - mostly you get two feeds from different power distribution
panels (so different breakers) but that's about it.
Having a local UPS attached is usually not really that helpful either
because those have limited capacity need space and are an additional
thing that can (and will) fail.
Stefan
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