From: | Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> |
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To: | Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
Cc: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Pavel Stehule <pavel(dot)stehule(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: 8.2 is 30% better in pgbench than 8.3 |
Date: | 2007-07-23 09:04:59 |
Message-ID: | 46A46F3B.1080100@enterprisedb.com |
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Simon Riggs wrote:
> The bad thing about having multiple autovacuum daemons active is that
> you can get two large VACUUMs running at the same time. This gives you
> the same small-VACUUM-starvation problem we had before, but now the
> effects of two VACUUMs kill performance even more. I would suggest that
> we look at ways of queueing, so that multiple large VACUUMs cannot
> occur. Setting vacuum_cost_delay will still allow multiple large VACUUMs
> but will make the starvation problem even worse as well. If we allow
> that situation to occur, I think I'd rather stick to autovac_workers=1.
> We will still have this potential problem even with HOT.
>
> Potential solution: Each autovac worker gets a range of table sizes they
> are allowed to VACUUM. This is set with an additional parameter which is
> an array of gating values (i.e. one less gating value than number of
> autovac workers). That way small VACUUMs are never starved out by large
> ones. This is the same as having a Small:Medium:Large style queueing
> system. We can work out how to make the queueing system self-tune by
> observation of autovacuum frequency.
default autovac_workers is 3, so wouldn't you need three, not two, large
VACUUMs to starvate a smaller table?
Instead of queuing, how about increasing autovac_workers if starvation
is a concern?
I'd like to set a default autovacuum_vacuum_cost_delay anyway. Without
it, autovacuum is a performance hit when it kicks in, even if there's
only one of them running, and even if it only lasts for a short time.
It's an unpleasant surprise for someone who's new to PostgreSQL and
doesn't yet understand how vacuum and autovacuum works.
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Heikki Linnakangas
EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com
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