Re: script binaries renaming

Tom Lane wrote:
> Zdenek Kotala <Zdenek(dot)Kotala(at)Sun(dot)COM> writes:
>> Dave Page wrote:
>>> This is almost as bad as Magnus agreeing with JD (!), but I agree with
>>> Peter :-). After years of typing the current names, changing them does
>>> seem somewhat annoying. Worse yet, pg_* is just awkward to type.
>
>> But these utilities are mostly using in scripts -> one type, multi use.
>
> According to whom? The ones that are really at issue I think are
> createuser/createlang/dropuser/droplang, and those seem mainly intended
> for interactive use. In a script you might as well use psql -c.
>
> The ones that have "db" in the name do not seem to me to need renaming.
> While maybe not obviously connected to Postgres, the chance of a
> collision with some other project is low.

Yes, but if we rename four why does it do for all of them?

> One that I'd personally vote to remove completely is "ipcclean".
> It's always been a crude, incomplete hack anyway, and the reason
> no one has bothered to improve it is that there is next to no use
> for it anymore.

And what's about remove all script commands? Everybody can use psql -c and it
decreases amount of code. Initdb should be replaced by pg_ctl init command. We
can plan it for Postgresql 9.0 as a main change :-).

Zdenek