Re: Oracle buying Sleepycat, JBoss, and

Robert Treat wrote:

<Of course I haven't figured out where PHP/Zend fits into this... maybe
to help make php/mysql less ubiquitous. >

Just a guess - but it may be related to IBM's Open Ajax initiative.
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1917665,00.asp

Presumably, web-apps are a big part of Oracle's future plans. If they
own the better-known power tools, they'll be better able to control the
web app "construction process" and help hatch more Salesforce dot com's,
which I believe use Oracle.

Next salvo could come from Adobe/Macromedia. They'll need to enter the
fray soon.

I think there is PG lemonade to be made from the lemons.

>On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 11:41, Luke Lonergan wrote:
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>>Bruce,
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>>On 2/10/06 8:27 AM, "Bruce Momjian" <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
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>>>What they are _not_ getting involved in is software that is community
>>>controlled, like PostgreSQL or Linux, because it much harder to see how
>>>a purchase would allow tight control of the software, resulting in
>>>revenue.
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>>True.
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>Or tight control resulting in killing the competition. Even with the
>death of great bridge, postgresql kept on going, and I'd say there is no
>company currently that has as much sway as great bridge did "way back
>when"
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>>I think it's clear they're going after applications again - buying many
>>proven foundational elements of a software development stack in one gulp.
>>What I wonder is what their next step might be - did they do this (and
>>InnoDB) to remove competition? Or do they expect to somehow monetize a new
>>stack?
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>My opinion is it's all about eliminating competition. InnoDB and JBoss
>don't give them code that is substantially different in a market effect
>sense, and sleepycat has only marginal value in the embedded space
>compared to the $$ oracle gets in the enterprise rdbms market. However
>killing JBoss would kill a competitor, and getting sleepycat puts an
>even tighter grip on mysql. Of course I haven't figured out where
>PHP/Zend fits into this... maybe to help make php/mysql less
>ubiquitous.
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>>Is Oracle trying to become an open source company?
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>At best they are trying to become a services company like IBM, but I
>still think they are just trying to slow down competition.
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>Robert Treat
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