From: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Kevin Grittner <kgrittn(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: snapshot too old issues, first around wraparound and then more. |
Date: | 2021-06-15 19:49:03 |
Message-ID: | 439211.1623786543@sss.pgh.pa.us |
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Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> My general point here is that I would like to know whether we have a
> finite number of reasonably localized bugs or a three-ring disaster
> that is unrecoverable no matter what we do. Andres seems to think it
> is the latter, and I *think* Peter Geoghegan agrees, but I think that
> the point might be worth a little more discussion.
TBH, I am not clear on that either.
> I'm unclear whether
> Tom's dislike for the feature represents hostility to the concept -
> with which I would have to disagree - or a judgement on the quality of
> the implementation - which might be justified.
I think it's a klugy, unprincipled solution to a valid real-world
problem. I suspect the implementation issues are not unrelated to
the kluginess of the concept. Thus, I would really like to see us
throw this away and find something better. I admit I have nothing
to offer about what a better solution to the problem would look like.
But I would really like it to not involve random-seeming query failures.
regards, tom lane
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