Re: Usind database with encoding UNICODE and vovel

From: Josef Springer <Josef(dot)Springer(at)JOOPS(dot)COM>
To: Dave Page <dpage(at)vale-housing(dot)co(dot)uk>
Cc: pgsql-odbc(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Usind database with encoding UNICODE and vovel
Date: 2005-08-04 08:45:06
Message-ID: 42F1D592.6070400@joops.com
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Hi Dave,

thanks for quick answer.

* I used Win2k with german locale
* Used the ODBC 08.00.0101 (psqlodbc.dll)

My application works well with other databases.
Is a point of this the reason of my problems ?

What locale settings did you use for database and client ?

Best Regards,
Josef Springer

Dave Page wrote:

> Hi Josef,
>
>
>
> Test env:
>
>
>
> Server and client running on XP Pro, UK English locale
>
> PostgreSQL 8.0.3
>
> psqlODBC-libpq 08.01.0003 (yesterdays release, default settings except
> server/database/username etc)
>
> Clients: Microsoft Access 2003
>
> Microsoft ODBC Test (UNICODE)
>
> Microsoft ODBC Test (ANSI)
>
> pgAdmin III (SVN Trunk)
>
> Microsoft Excel 2003/MS Query (Only SELECTs tested)
>
>
>
> Testing with databases created using LATIN1 and UNICODE, INSERT and
> SELECTs work exactly as expected using your test string, on all
> databases, with all clients. In all cases, the string inserted was
> exactly the string that was then retrieved in a subsequent select.
> Test strings inserted by each client were also selected back correctly
> by all other clients.
>
>
>
> In short, it works perfectly for me.
>
>
>
> I'm not sure what to suggest, other than perhaps to try the ODBC Test
> programs yourself (available in the Microsoft Data Access SDK). If
> they work, then perhaps there is a bug in your application?
>
>
>
> Regards, Dave.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: Josef Springer [mailto:Josef(dot)Springer(at)JOOPS(dot)COM]
> Sent: 04 August 2005 07:04
> To: Dave Page
> Cc: pgsql-odbc(at)postgresql(dot)org
> Subject: Re: [ODBC] Usind database with encoding UNICODE and vovel
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> i have tested the settings in driver setup for the DSN without any
> effect (i send the same command after connected through the port too).
>
> The environment:
> Server and client same machineWin2k, german locale
> PostgrSQL 8.0.3
> Using the installed ODBC driver
> German locale selected in the PostgreSQL installation
>
> Using no vovels (umlaut) work fine. But using a vovel, curious effect.
> I have tried all server and client variations with sense with this
> result. All tests are done with a string column containing äöüß
> Server database encoding
> Client encoding
> Result
> LATIN
> LATIN
> Writing works. Reading gets the bytearray 63.63,0,1,0,2,47,0
> LATIN
> UNICODE Reading works bur witing gets an error 'Bad code xxx for
> UNICODE'
> UNICODE
> UNICODE
> Writing works. Reading gets the bytearray 63.63,0,1,0,2,47,0
> UNICODE
> LATIN
> Writing works. Reading gets the bytearray 63.63,0,1,0,2,47,0
> UNICODE
> WIN1250
> Writing works. Reading gets the bytearray 63.63,0,1,0,2,47,0
> SQL_ASCII
> UNICODE
> Writing works. Reading gets the bytearray 63.63,0,1,0,2,47,0
>
>
> In PgAdminIII the column is displayed correct in all server
> database variations !
>
> We plan to announce our Business-Process-Management-System
> OfficeTalk supportimg PostgreSQL, but without vovels in german
> .... What to do ?????
>
> Best Regards,
> Josef Springer
>
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>
> Dave Page wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Andreas Pflug [mailto:pgadmin(at)pse-consulting(dot)de]
>>>Sent: 03 August 2005 09:28
>>>To: Josef Springer
>>>Cc: pgsql-odbc(at)postgresql(dot)org; Dave Page
>>>Subject: Re: [ODBC] Usind database with encoding UNICODE and vovel
>>>
>>>Josef Springer wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi anybody,
>>>>
>>>>Encironment: Win2k, german locale, PostgreSQL database with UNICODE
>>>>encoding, using via ODBC
>>>> Client encoding UNICODE.
>>>>
>>>>I can read strings containing vovels without problems, But writing
>>>>strings containing vovels does not work !
>>>>Can anybody assist ?
>>>>
>>>I've been posting a patch earlier this year (January) because
>>>I had the
>>>same problem on Unicode databases. But this is not the
>>>ultimate patch;
>>>it will create data errors with non-unicode databases (e.g.
>>>Latin-1).
>>>
>>
>>OK, well as you know Andreas, my unicode/locale etc. experience is
>>pretty much limited to what I've learnt from you and Hiroshi Saito on
>>pgAdmin, however, I'm on a roll fixing bugs in psqlODBC at the moment,
>>so let's try to sort this :-)
>>
>>>I wonder if the odbc driver changes the client encoding to
>>>unicode, as it
>>>should when connecting to non-ASCII databases.
>>>
>>
>>No it doesn't but it seems a pretty major thing for Hiroshi (Inoue) to
>>have missed when he wrote the Unicode support, so I suspect he had some
>>reason for not doing so at the time
>>
>>You (or Josef) can do this manually though for testing - in the driver
>>setup for the DSN, click on DataSource, then on 'Page 2'. Add the
>>following query to the connect settings box, and OK all the dialogues.
>>
>>SET client_encoding TO 'unicode'
>>
>>Then, try it out and let us know what happens!
>>
>>Regards, Dave.
>>

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