Re: [HACKERS] Enticing interns to PostgreSQL

Hi,

Mitch Pirtle wrote:
>
> What I'd love to see for PostgreSQL is a more aggressive push on the
> business side, to get PostgreSQL into the same enterprise accounts
> that MySQL is starting to get into. Like Zend is to PHP, who is
> analogous in the PostgreSQL world?

I'd hate to see the analog of Zend in PostgreSQL world.

Zend's business model is beneficial for them, but bad for PHP community. The
classic example is absence of bytecode compilation (available in all other major
scripting languages) in default PHP. To get this you need to pay money to Zend
for Super Advanced Zend Enterprise Ready Accelerator Platform Plus, or whatever
the thing is called now. The guys have a sh*tload of engine level bugs in the
language and refuse to fix them, but have a lot of money spent on PR and
"enterprise" cruft they are marketing.

Maybe Zend is making inroads into the enterprise, but they are damaging their
ecosystem in the process, by alienating the developers [1] that are building the
major Open Source applications in and around PHP. And these applications are
what drives most people to PHP, not "Super Advanced Zend Enterprise Ready
Accelerator Platform Plus".

So "having Zend in PostgreSQL world" translates to me as "keeping PostgreSQL
substandard product to be able to sell addons for it". I doubt that is a good idea.

[1] http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=279833