Re: 8.0.X and the ARC patent

From: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: pgsql(at)mohawksoft(dot)com, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: 8.0.X and the ARC patent
Date: 2005-02-15 02:56:49
Message-ID: 421164F1.7050404@commandprompt.com
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Bruce Momjian wrote:

>pgsql(at)mohawksoft(dot)com wrote:
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>>Might it be possible to contact IBM directly and ask if they will allow
>>usage of the patent for PostgreSQL. They've let 500 patents for open
>>source, maybe they'll give a write off for this as well.
>>
>>There is an advantage beyond just not having to re-write the code, but it
>>would also be sort of an IBM blessing, great PR.
>>
>>I will be at "Linux World" and see if there is an IBM booth, maybe I can
>>get some contact info.
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>I doubt they will give us something that extends to companies that sell
>PostgreSQL so I don't see the point.
>
>

Also if I recall didn't Tom already have a patch ready to be
tested for the q2 stuff?

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake

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>>>FYI, core has discussed the pending IBM ARC patent and the usage of
>>>those ideas in 8.0.
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>>>Tom has found a 2Q cache algorithm that predates the ARC patent and is
>>>very similar to ARC. The major difference is that it doesn't auto-size
>>>the ARC sub-buffers.
>>>
>>>Core believes it is best to backpatch this 2Q algorithm into 8.0.X to
>>>avoid any possible patent problems if the patent is granted and
>>>enforced.
>>>
>>>We are testing the use of the 2Q code to see if it has any performance
>>>impact. The 8.0.X release that uses 2Q will have more extensive testing
>>>than a normal minor release. 8.1 will have a new cache algorithm that
>>>hopefully will remove the buffer contention problems experienced by SMP
>>>machines.
>>>
>>>For development, this means we will _not_ have a shortened, non-initdb
>>>8.1 release but a regular release cycle with the typical big batch of
>>>features.
>>>
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