From: | Alexey Borzov <borz_off(at)cs(dot)msu(dot)su> |
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To: | josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com |
Cc: | pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Vote on Omar Design |
Date: | 2004-11-19 20:12:51 |
Message-ID: | 419E53C3.4030208@cs.msu.su |
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Hi,
Josh Berkus wrote:
>>Therefore, I'm willing to support Omar's design, but *after* the content
>>fixing and porting work is finished. This work may continue even in the
>>current design.
>
> I was under the impression that porting the content to Lucasz' design, putting
> it up, applying Omar's design, and then re-arranging the content to fit
> Omar's design, was much more work than just doing Omar's design. Was I
> mistaken?
These tasks are orthogonal. Most of the pages would fit in any design and I
doubt Omar did any changes to them at all when "porting".
> And Omar has already ported part of the content to his design as an example,
> and is willing to do more. It would be one thing if you'd said that
> Lucasz' design was the only way we'd get a new site up by 8.0, but you've not
> said that ... so both options seem to be equivalent, and Omar's is the better
> looking design, at least I've not seen anyone say otherwise.
I took a look at http://postgresql.tinysofa.com and it looks like the site has
all the current content ported to the new[er] design, including advocacy stuff.
Thus +1 for Omar's design.
My main point was that we need content authors and editors now, not programmers
/ designers. I have some doubts that Omar is a native English speaker and will
be able to write content.
>>Omar has
>>been submitting patches which are being reviewed and getting committed
>>so things seem ok there.
>
> Yes, but Omar splitting his time between his design and Lucasz's is far less
> effective than Omar working full time on his design.
The patches he sent are orthogonal to the design, ask him if you don't believe me.
> Who's "we"? I don't recall a spec document anywhere that says that the
> design has to be "stretchy", nor do I recall any discussion on this list to
> that effect. Maybe my memory is faulty, give me a link.
There *of course* wasn't any spec document (who do you think we are?) but there
were discussions on that particular issue, back in spring I think.
Thus I'd very much like to see a variable-width version of Omar's design, I
doubt there will be any serious problems to change it.
>>From my perspective:
> 1) Omar's design is undeniably better-looking and easier to navigate than
> Lucasz's;
Agreed, with the exception of fixed-width issue.
> 2) Porting to Omar's design rather than Lucasz's will make no difference in
> the go-live time of the web site;
Agreed.
> 3) Omar has demonstrated that he will be around to help with the port, which I
> don't think Lucasz is (since www-committers has no public archive, I can't
> tell if Lucasz has been helping quietly in the background).
There *is* a public archive: http://gborg.postgresql.org/pipermail/pgweb-commits
You are right: Lukasz only did the design.
Speaking of which, if Omar wants to "be around", he should register a gborg
account and convince Dave to add him as a pgweb project developer.
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