Re: [JDBC] Selecting Varchar range (through JDBC).

From: Daryl Beattie <dbeattie(at)insystems(dot)com>
To: 'Stephan Szabo' <sszabo(at)megazone23(dot)bigpanda(dot)com>, Daryl Beattie <dbeattie(at)insystems(dot)com>
Cc: pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org, pgsql-jdbc(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: [JDBC] Selecting Varchar range (through JDBC).
Date: 2002-09-10 15:45:52
Message-ID: 4160E6FC08ABD21191F000805F857E9305ECE3C2@mail.markham.insystems.com
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Really? The collating elements are locale-specific?!? They are actually
hard-coded somewhere??

If this is so, and this is what is meant by the definition of a collating
element, then I am going about things the entirely wrong way when trying to
select a varchar range. In which case I would be tempted to do something
like this instead:

testdb=# select 'test' ~* '^[[.a.]-[.z.]][[.a.]-[.a.]]';
[same as]
testdb=# select 'test' ~* '^[a-z][a-a]';

Of course, this won't match aa-za, because it won't match ab, ac, ..., az,
bb, bc, ..., etc.

So, does anybody have any advice on how to select a range?

Stephan, thanks for clearing me up on the collating elements. Perhaps it
should be in the docs that they are locale-specific ... so that simpletons
like me won't be misled into thinking that they can just make up collating
elements as they seem fit.

Sincerely,

Daryl.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephan Szabo [mailto:sszabo(at)megazone23(dot)bigpanda(dot)com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:20 AM
> To: Daryl Beattie
> Cc: pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org; pgsql-jdbc(at)postgresql(dot)org
> Subject: Re: [JDBC] [GENERAL] Selecting Varchar range (through JDBC).
>
>
> Stephan Szabo sszabo(at)bigpanda(dot)com
>
> On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Daryl Beattie wrote:
>
> > Dear PostgreSQL people,
> >
> > A little while ago I posted a message about selecting a varchar
> > range through JDBC. Thomas was nice enough to give me some
> pointers, and I
> > went back to the database and tested some things out. The
> clincher came when
> > I realized that one of my JUnit tests was actually passing
> using the varchar
> > range; some of the regular expressions worked, while others did not.
> > What I found is that using the collating elements in regex
> > comparisons does not work if the collating arguments are
> more than one
> > character in length. According to
> >
http://www.postgresql.org/idocs/index.php?functions-matching.html#FUNCTIONS-
> REGEXP, regular expressions should work with multi-character collating
> arguments. I did a bunch of tests at the PostgreSQL command-line to verify
> this finding. Here are some highlights:
>
> testdb=# select 'test' ~* '^[[.a.]-[.z.]]';
> ?column?
> ----------
> t
> (1 row)
>
> testdb=# select 'test' ~* '^[[.aa.]-[.za.]]';
> ERROR: Invalid regular expression: invalid collating element
> testdb=# select 'test' ~* '^[[.a.]-[.za.]]';
> ERROR: Invalid regular expression: invalid collating element
> testdb=# select 'test' ~* '^[[.aa.]-[.z.]]';

Are you really in a locale where aa or za are collating elements?

> ERROR: Invalid regular expression: invalid collating element
> testdb=# select 'chchcc' ~ '[[.ch.]]*c';
> ERROR: Invalid regular expression: invalid collating element
>
>
> That last test was taken straight from the PostgreSQL interactive
> documentation at the link that I provided above. The documentation states
> that it should match.

Note the caveat in the paragraph above. If the collating sequence
includes a ch collating element...
It means if you're in a locale where ch collates as a single element you
can use .ch. to refer to that element.

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