Re: pg_upgrade from 12 to 13 failes with plpython2

From: Marcin Giedz <marcin(dot)giedz(at)arise(dot)pl>
To: Adrian Klaver <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Devrim Gündüz <devrim(at)gunduz(dot)org>, pgsql-general <pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: pg_upgrade from 12 to 13 failes with plpython2
Date: 2020-11-18 07:10:52
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but my question still remains the same - what causes pg_upgrade failure - are functions the reason? what I did was to delete these 2 rows from pg_pltemplate as I thought this may help:

postgres=# delete from pg_pltemplate where tmplname = 'plpython2u';
DELETE 1
postgres=# delete from pg_pltemplate where tmplname = 'plpythonu';
DELETE 1

but pg_upgrade still complains about plpython2:

cat loadable_libraries.txt
could not load library "$libdir/plpython2": ERROR: could not access file "$libdir/plpython2": No such file or directory
In database: alaxx
In database: template1

marcin(at)carbon2:~$ psql -U pgsql -h 192.168.89.64 alaxx
psql (12.4 (Ubuntu 12.4-1))
Type "help" for help.

argosrm=# select * from pg_pltemplate ;
tmplname | tmpltrusted | tmpldbacreate | tmplhandler | tmplinline | tmplvalidator | tmpllibrary | tmplacl
------------+-------------+---------------+------------------------+--------------------------+---------------------+-------------------+---------
plpgsql | t | t | plpgsql_call_handler | plpgsql_inline_handler | plpgsql_validator | $libdir/plpgsql |
pltcl | t | t | pltcl_call_handler | | | $libdir/pltcl |
pltclu | f | f | pltclu_call_handler | | | $libdir/pltcl |
plperl | t | t | plperl_call_handler | plperl_inline_handler | plperl_validator | $libdir/plperl |
plperlu | f | f | plperlu_call_handler | plperlu_inline_handler | plperlu_validator | $libdir/plperl |
plpython3u | f | f | plpython3_call_handler | plpython3_inline_handler | plpython3_validator | $libdir/plpython3 |
(6 rows)

argosrm=# \q
marcin(at)carbon2:~$ psql -U pgsql -h 192.168.89.64 template1
psql (12.4 (Ubuntu 12.4-1))
Type "help" for help.

template1=# select * from pg_pltemplate ;
tmplname | tmpltrusted | tmpldbacreate | tmplhandler | tmplinline | tmplvalidator | tmpllibrary | tmplacl
------------+-------------+---------------+------------------------+--------------------------+---------------------+-------------------+---------
plpgsql | t | t | plpgsql_call_handler | plpgsql_inline_handler | plpgsql_validator | $libdir/plpgsql |
pltcl | t | t | pltcl_call_handler | | | $libdir/pltcl |
pltclu | f | f | pltclu_call_handler | | | $libdir/pltcl |
plperl | t | t | plperl_call_handler | plperl_inline_handler | plperl_validator | $libdir/plperl |
plperlu | f | f | plperlu_call_handler | plperlu_inline_handler | plperlu_validator | $libdir/plperl |
plpython3u | f | f | plpython3_call_handler | plpython3_inline_handler | plpython3_validator | $libdir/plpython3 |
(6 rows)

what can I do next ?

Thx
Marcin

Od: "Adrian Klaver" <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>
Do: "Devrim Gündüz" <devrim(at)gunduz(dot)org>, "Tom Lane" <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
DW: "Marcin Giedz" <marcin(dot)giedz(at)arise(dot)pl>, "pgsql-general" <pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Wysłane: wtorek, 17 listopad 2020 23:30:44
Temat: Re: pg_upgrade from 12 to 13 failes with plpython2

On 11/17/20 2:17 PM, Devrim Gündüz wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 16:23 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
>> You're confusing what the source code can do (which is what the
>> manual documents) versus what individual packagers choose to support.
>> The packagers frequently don't have a lot of choice in the matter;
>> once their platform drops python2, they can't support plpython2.
>

First let me say:

1) I don't use Python 2 anymore.

2) I have converted my plpython(2)u functions to plpythonu3u

3) I don't use RH family distros.

> Well, CentOS 8 "supports" PY2, however given that Christoph also
> dropped PY2 support in Debian packages as of PostgreSQL 12 [1], and
> given that *Python 2 is unsupported* anyway, I just wanted to drop
> support at this point.

Read that sentence again and see the inherent disconnect between the
beginning and end.

As a packager you are in charge of how the packaging is done. Still
announcing a change that effectively nullifies the documentation would
to me be something that should be announced somewhere else than a list
that I'm guessing 99% of the users don't read.

>
> FWIW, older PostgreSQL major versions still have PY 2 support. This is
> for PostgreSQL 13 only.

>
> [1] : https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/20200522080114.GA449430%40msg.df7cb.de
>
> Regards,
>

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